Need advice, long range loose dog

[ChanceandAnita]

I bought a Bluetick/cat cross, this dog is always busy hunting I have no complaints there. It jus seams he has a lot more cold nosed then my other dogs, picks up a trail and has the stamina to track it down. He goes for miles till he starts running the pig or gets it bayed. I problem I'm having is he is hunting off my property running pigs cause he is so loose and i cant get to the bays and this dog is wide open on track, which his bark is a low scruffy bark that's not bad but it never changes so u never know when he is bayed unless the gps says he is treed. So I have been running him for three months now and I noticed my dogs have fallen off honoring him. So here my question , do I just hunt him alone, how can I teach him to get rough to stop one if he won't bite at one. The dog is not a cull, he jus hunts different than we are used to. Any advice is appreciated

[Judge peel]

He will always be that way more than likely. Once they don't honer him they prolly never will I see it all the time dog opens other go to it if they can't pick up the track they will think he is full of it and go back to what they where doing


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[halfbreed]

    you have a garmin , now get you a shock system [ or the alpha ] with the tone feature and teach the dog to tone in . when you see on the garmin he is leaving the country tone him back in .  simple solution , easy peasy . them old hounds ain't for everybody  lol  .

[NathanDoss]

I doubt you could teach him to get rough.

[NathanDoss]

Are your dogs not honoring him when he's trailing or after its jumped ? If they aren't honoring him when he's trailing your other dogs probably can't smell it. If he's jumped and your dogs won't put in with him he may be running trash.

[jdt]

send him to that fla cheerleader that used to be on here , your dog will fit right in with his program 

[Reuben]

Are your dogs not honoring him when he's trailing or after its jumped ? If they aren't honoring him when he's trailing your other dogs probably can't smell it. If he's jumped and your dogs won't put in with him he may be running trash.

I agree with you Nathan...more than likely the bluetick is opening on a cold track...after so many times the dogs honor him and can't smell the track or do not get excited enough to run it...so after so many times they quit honoring...been there done that...I don't like cold nosed dogs for hog dogs...I like medium nosed dogs with the knack to find one pretty quick...

you are thinking the bluetick is loose baying but my bet is he is just gritty enough to break the bay...unless of course you have first hand experience on his baying style...

[ChanceandAnita]

I have seen him bay he's not a mile away but not in their face either I hunt 2 other full blood hounds with him and sometimes they go with him and sometimes they don't the other dogs go to him when he first opens up but if it's not very fresh sometimes they come back I can send my other dogs to him if I know he is bayed I havnt seen him trash but 2 times since we have had him so I don't think he is running trash I think he is just walking behind the hogs barking thats why I was wandering if there was anything I could do to get him to stop the hog

[CRC]

If I had other dogs that will strike, stop and bay hogs on the properties you are allowed to hunt I think I'd just stick with them. Why keep a dog you have to chase off the properties you have permission on to places you don't just cause he can't get em stopped?

[NChoghunter]

I have a big male treeing walker that's real cold nosed an not gritty at all will stand bay which is good cause hes used to trail bear to... will pick up on tracks that's 12+ hours old that the other dogs cant smell but over the years some of the other dogs have learned to stick with him until the track is warmed up...when the dogs get use to the bluetick puting hogs at the end of all that barking they will learn to honor him as far as makeing him gritty more then likey if its not gritty by now its not going to be

[l.h.cracker]

I don't hunt hounds but I had a similar situation to yours that I was unable to remedy. I hunt silent curs and they're all pretty hot nosed dogs that stop hogs within a mile but I had an old fl cur bitch that had a far colder nose than any of my other dogs or any of my buddies dogs as well she would take a track for miles to the end every time damn near. The problem was she was a small dog and extremely gritty not big enough to hold a good hog by herself and refused to back up and bay.Every night was spent chasing her for hours and hours when I'd finally catch her she'd be beat up from finding and fighting with hogs all by herself. I had to sell her cause I walk hunt mostly but the fellow I sold her to hunts big leases with good roads and he cast her drives to her and dumps other dogs and calls all the time to say how much he loves her and how many hogs he catches with her.My point is that if that a super long range cold nosed dog that's gritty can be just as frustrating.

[KevinN]

Don't think you'll make him gritty. I don't/havnt hunted Preacher enough to find out how cold a track he'll run. And there's a reason for that. As it stands...he hasn't ran anything cold that I know of.

A few things I do know....
He'll only open on a hot track...if a bay breaks he'll stay open till he falls a certain distance behind the hog...then he shuts up till he sees it again.

He doesn't push a track hard enough for my liking, considering he's a semi open dog. This is the main reason I slowed down hunting him....BUT....here's the thing...
He's got crazy bottom (if a bay breaks).

Last time I hunted him was on a game ranch. He's not broke off aoudad so I didn't even turn him out until we had a bay. We were trying to catch a certain boar that was known to be a runner. Anyway....The bay ended up breaking and he stayed hooked for 4 1/2 hours...the curs had long quit the track but he came bayed 3 times by himself....sadly, not once could we get the CD's to him before the hog broke.

All this to say...that's probably gonna be the extent of his use for me from now on. Turn him out at first bark...because I KNOW he'll give me a chance to catch ANY hog that's struck.