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« on: June 19, 2015, 02:32:53 pm » |
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Got a RCD of mine that has tested positive for heartworms... he is about 7 1/2 rite now and when I took him to the vet he said there was a new treatment that might work on him besides the acid. If you give ivomectin and minocine or doxycycline to the dog for 3 One month cycles out of a yr, the Vet said that doxycycline or minocine targets the bacteria that the heart worm lives on. By killing the bacteria that the worm has to have to survive, it in turn kills the adult heart worm. The ivomectin will continue to kill all micro larvae in the blood,, he did also say that steroids will help shrink the inflammation in the dogs lungs and that will help him breath better.. I have given this dog 2 rounds of this medicine without seeing that much of improvement,, just wondering if any of yall ever seen it work before..
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Reuben
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2015, 05:19:27 pm » |
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back in 1983 I used this treatment that I found written by a Veterinarian...he almost lost his license for posting it in a catalog but it is burned in my brain so you can pm me and I will send it to you...I have treated family and friends dogs with 100 percent success and no ill effects...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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hillbilly
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2015, 09:47:21 pm » |
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I have seen them cured with straight ivomec. Give them about 1 cc per 10lbs and repeat in about 10 days to two weeks. It might kill the dog also just a chance you take.
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charles
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2015, 09:51:07 pm » |
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I thought it was .10(1/10)cc per 10lbs. 1cc seems a lot
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Reuben
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2015, 09:52:16 pm » |
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I believe 1 ccfm per ten pounds is probably way too much
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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hillbilly
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2015, 09:57:13 pm » |
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That's to kill heartworms in a dog that has them bad. I give mine 1/10 per 10 lbs of body weight monthly.
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Treezbulldogz
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2015, 08:03:44 am » |
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I've heard NOT to give Ivomec if heartworm positive but I'd love to hear what you use as a cure, Reuben. If you don't mind PMing me please and sharing I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Amokabs
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2015, 08:04:43 am » |
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I thought u could use the regular heart worm prevention regimen of oral ivermectin 1ml per 100 lbs. I guess the idea is to keep any filaria from maturing into adults , and the mature heart worms will eventually die off.
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Amokabs
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2015, 08:09:46 am » |
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Usually it's the vet that tells u not to give ivermectin, cuz they make allotta $$$ treating heart worms. When the vet treats for heart worms, they pretty much hydrate the dog, blast the heart worms, then observe and treat for emboli, if you treat with ivermectin and let the worms die off of old age, you still have a chance of emboli, but a much smaller chance, since you have adult heart worms dying off slowly, as opposed to killing them all at once.
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Judge peel
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2015, 06:55:02 am » |
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I got a dog that had heart worms she was around 7 when she got them I was out of state working for 7 months when I came back I notice she wasn't right took her in sure enough had them. She had always been on heart worm pill not imvec cuz I thought healers couldn't take it my cuzin said naw she can. He give her a regular dose for 3 days then a slightly higher dose each month and should knock them out. I did it and it worked she is heart worm free I don't know if this was a safe method or not but it did work
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The main thing to remember is it's 1% ivomectin for dogs, not the 2% for larger livestock. If infected or not give 1cc a month to adult dogs, less for younger pups, for prevention, and the already infected will take several months to a year, but will cure completely. I've proven on one many years ago, and since never had another case.
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Treezbulldogz
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From what I do 1cc would be for a 100 lb dog.
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Bryant
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The normal (adult) lifespan for a heartworm is about 2 yrs. Keep the dog from getting worse (Ivomec) and it should be heartworm free after a relatively short time. Perhaps the worm(s) were already a year old when discovered...that means dog could potentially be heartworm free after a year if kept from getting worse.
Lots of rumors and false info floating around about heartworms...how to cure...how to prevent...etc.
Best to do some research from viable sources and be educated instead of 'ole so-and-so did this and that and now his dog is cured. There is NO scientific proof that ANYTHING has ever been effective against treating heartworms other than Immiticide. It's expensive, and it's hard on the treated dog but depending on the severity sometimes it's the only viable option.
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Reuben
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I haven't used that method but it is definitely a heck of a lot safer than the traditional treatment...I have seen a dogs that looked healthy die from the traditional treatment and the owner still had to pay a big chunk of cash... What I have used in the past was recommended by 2 veterinarians who almost lost their licenses to practice when they posted this treatment...back that treatment cost 5 or 6 bucks to treat a dog and they had the pills to send you or you could buy them at any feed store...one dog I treated twice on account he lived to be about 14 or 15 years and they never gave him his heartworm prevention meds like they should have...he was tested positive at the vet but you can tell when a dog has them bad...they wheeze and cough if they run some and they swell up like they have water retention problems...another friend of mine was told by the vet that he wouldn't treat his dog because she had them pretty bad and he didn't think she could make it through the treatment so I offered to help him out and she lived a normal healthy life after treatment...the treatment is pretty safe and the vets had said the side effects were minimal if any but I never saw any... the active ingredient is levamasole and I haven't seen it around anymore...I believe some of the goat and sheep wormers have the wormer that is closely related if I remember correctly... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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Bryant
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From the American Heartworm Society...
Immiticide treatment is expensive and often out of reach for rescue groups, shelters, and many individuals. If the dog is stable (Class I) one option is to simply leave the dog on an ivermectin based preventive. This option has led to a great deal of misconception about the ability of ivermectin to kill adult heartworms. Let us lay the rumors to rest now:
Ivermectin does not kill adult heartworms.
Ivermectin does shorten the lifespan of adult heartworms.
Ivermectin does sterilize adult heartworms.
Ivermectin does kill microfilaria (keeping the dog from being a source of contagion)
Ivermectin does kill L3 and L4 larvae (preventing new infections).
This means that if one opts to treat a heartworm positive dog with an ivermectin heartworm preventive only, one can expect the dog to remain heartworm positive for as long as 2 years and the heartworm disease will be progressing during that 2 years. This is not good for the dog but certainly beats getting no treatment of any kind.
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Reuben
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I did a little looking around on the net and it is harder to find but can be bought...seems that cocaine users and peddlers like to mix it with the drug...spelling the word wrong was not helping...the correct spelling is LEVAMISOLE for the active ingredient...most companies sell it as a pour on but it can be bought for oral consumption...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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Goose87
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There's a new medication out that mixes the active ingredient in bayer and cydectin,( moxidectin), their pamphlet claims it kills and treats ALL worms heart worms included. So I bought a tube of quest horse wormer and give my dogs and what you would put on your toothbrush. Everybody looks awesome. For yrs I've been giving my dogs a combination of ivermectin and pyrantel poamate (active ingredients of heart guard)and never had an issue with HW, just had a ten year old cur dog checked and he came back negative for anything so I must be doing something right.
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