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« on: October 01, 2009, 08:54:14 pm » |
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I mean how their teeth line up. I am curious as to how many people actually look at their dogs teeth to see how they line up.
The reason for asking is I am curious to see how important a good bite is for baydogs, in others opinions. For a catch dog, a good bite is a must in my book and I "prefer" all my dogs have a good bite.
What brings it up is my Monkey dog. I didn't breed him, but got him as a pup. He is a 100% pure Partin bred dog from St. Cloud Fla. He finds a lot of hogs for me, will hunt by himself, find and bay by himself, will catch a hog by himself up to about 75-100 lbs, and will catch any hog with a catchy dog. Monkey is probably the most athletic dog I have had in some time, is the fastest dog I own, good conformation, handles, not a lot of holes in him except I wish he had more nose.
But, he has an underbite. I have only bred him twice (he is 4 years old) and a majority of his pups from both litters had off bites, even though the females I bred him to, had perfect bites. None of my old line of dogs have an underbite or overbite and I don't want to breed this into my dogs.
Then I got to thinking "just how big of a deal is an off- bite for a baydog?"
Can you overlook an underbite in a baydog if all other ingredients are there? It has always been a fault to me and I have never wanted to breed to a dog with an underbite. But, if the dog excells in the woods, would you NOT breed to him just because of an underbite? Or breed to a dog that is not as good in the woods, but has a perfect bite?
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 09:31:15 pm » |
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To me I guess it matter how much under or over they are! I would rather they were close to perfect, but I don't think it maters much on a bay dog if he could eat good!
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hillbilly
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 12:49:35 am » |
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I call this Parrot mouth. I have heard people say it is caused from inbreeding but I don't know if that is true or not. Anyways it wouldn't bother me in a bay dog if it does everything else you like.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2009, 09:23:41 am » |
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I figured I would get more response to this post. As a breeder, this is just one of many things I look at when I am looking at males to breed to.
I guess a lot of guys on here either don't look at their dogs bite or don't care if they have an off bite. I was just curious how many look or even care if the dog doesn't have a good bite. The fact that I only had two replies makes me wonder.......
Monkey is out of a half brother/ half sister breeding, but I didn't breed him. I had hoped breeding him to unrelated females with good bites, the pups wouldn't have an underbite, but more than half did.
Monkey's underbite is not real bad, if his mouth is closed you can't even tell. But if you close his mouth and look, his bottom jaw/teeth project out about a 1/2" in front of his top teeth.
To me, a parrot mouth in an over bite, where the top teeth project out past the bottom teeth. Thats what they call that in horses too.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2009, 09:18:50 pm » |
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you are right I thought that was what yo were talking abouy.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2009, 11:17:26 pm » |
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an underbite doesnt bother me at all, I dont believe it has anything to do with a dog being able to bite and hang on. Im sure there will be someone say NO WAY. Means nothing! at least not to me. jmo
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2009, 07:49:33 am » |
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I won't use them. Eventually a little bit can turn into a lot generations down. I haven't seen it cause a problem, I just don't like it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2009, 07:27:52 pm » |
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I personally prefer a dog with a good bite. I want their teeth to line up as I feel it will help them KEEP their teeth while catching hogs and I think it probably helps them hold the hogs better too.
I don't own a bulldog, dogo, or anything but cur dogs, so my cur dogs usually catch what we get after. Sometimes thats a good thing, sometimes its not.
On a straight catchdog, I would want a near perfect bite but I have seen a lot of bulldogs with underbites, catch and hold with no problem.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2009, 12:31:38 pm » |
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i don't believe the bite would affect a bay dog,
some breeds are meant to have an underbite, but not many,
one breed that comes to mind is a boxer, but you don't see many of those on hogs
i wouldn't worry about it, since he works good in the woods
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2009, 09:48:46 pm » |
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Man, I don't think it'll amke any difference in a bay dog. After all his job is to find the hog. Just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2009, 02:25:43 pm » |
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i wont have a parrot mouth horse ,, and yes i do want my dogs teeth to match up good.. even if he cant find a hog  i havent seen it in any of the bmc dogs , just in a few bulldog breeds.. |
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