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« on: July 18, 2015, 10:21:30 pm »

Anybody still breed these type dogs in east texas? I seen them brought up in discussions about black mouths? Yellowblackmask?
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2015, 11:34:15 am »

I like this style of dog. Short range catch on site type of dog they work good in the creek bottoms and briar patches we hunt. They don't work for every one or every terrain but will produce hogs. I like them the best in a pair with a loose dog works very well for me 


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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2015, 11:38:21 am »

That is how you would describe the pups you have on the ground now? How are they lookin'?
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2015, 12:22:16 pm »

Well kinda but the straight curs I have. Have produced rougher dogs but they have the blood to be that way. Only way to know is put them to the test


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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2015, 12:12:02 am »

The original question asked "Does anyone breed these type of dogs anymore "

Very few actual breeders left of anything.

I would say as previously stated......just a few pockets of these dogs here and there. Very few are still activity kept and bred by the original guys that had them 20+ yrs ago when they were common as house cats up here.

I run across some every once in awhile, but hardly ever being activity bred and culled for a continued lines anymore.

My hunting partner Strikedogkennel has some I classify as these dogs out of some old Hardin County blood he acquired some years back.

They come straight YBM, short range and will catch a Sasquatch if he stands to fight.

I prefer the longer ranged colder nosed yeller dogs, but facts are facts with modern day hogs........either catch them immediately or have the bottom to run the air out of them. That's where these type dogs are nice to play with.

Small tracts and notorious runners sometimes require me changing my game. That's when I tell my buddy to grab the ole schools. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2015, 01:13:20 am »

Ybm what was the old Hardin county bloodline that your friend has?
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2015, 10:05:37 am »

Leroy old east tx cur pretty much a cd


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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2015, 11:20:42 am »

Leroy old east tx cur pretty much a cd


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Good looking dog
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2015, 06:18:06 pm »

Boy I like the looks that ole saddle back Leroy Judge you feed some fine looking dogs.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2015, 08:26:53 pm »

Thanks bro he is a stud of a dog when I cut him to a pig lol I stopped running him unless he is with another rough dog that will catch I been just using him as a catch dog 


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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 09:22:43 pm »

Ybm what was the old Hardin county bloodline that your friend has?

Well I stand corrected. His dogs are from a pocket in Liberty County not Hardin.

Some names that are in the background of his blood are Fregias, Taylor and Campbell bred dogs.
 
He aquired a pair of males from some family several years back and gifted me with one. They were cob rough and together would catch anything that was in front of them. Mine didn't make it but two seasons but he had made some very nice crosses of his male and another old family cow bred gyp from down that way also. 

The pups have mirrored the original males and are extremely rough and tend to wind vs trail. They ain't much for go yonders, but they  get-r-done when the snot slinging begins in a briar patch.
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2015, 09:30:21 pm »

Ybm...if the Campbell curs are from where I think they come from then they are pit and bird dog crossed and that probably explains some of the rough and for sure the winding...
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2015, 09:40:12 pm »

Could be Ruben. I am not familiar with either except the Taylor blood.

So far no paint has ever shown through out the 3 generations we have had them. I believe his kinfolk had them numerous generations prior.

Gonna try and post some pics of the original pair we got and some of the offspring

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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2015, 09:52:12 pm »

Original littermate males.

 
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2015, 09:53:57 pm »

Thanks for the info. Ybm
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2015, 09:58:15 pm »

No problem bud.  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2015, 09:58:28 pm »

Nice dogs ybm


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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2015, 10:06:52 pm »

We raised some yella dogs that looked exactly like those two dogs when I was a kid. They hunted the same as you describe, the devil himself couldn't back those old dogs up! They were extremely suicidal dogs!
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2015, 10:22:59 pm »

Appreciate the kind words Judge. Smiley

And yes David the word "Suicidal" unfortunately describes these type dogs.

By my count we have lost four in the last several years due to just that. Very effective in their chosen profession but shallow life expectancies.  Lots of stitch and staple hours associated with em. But straight gladiators!
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2015, 10:36:06 pm »

That old line of dogs is no longer around because of that "suicidal" trait, unfortunately.
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