slimhogdog
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« on: August 18, 2015, 10:44:39 am » |
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Trying to gauge some interest here. I've got a 3-4 acre woods pen and was wondering how many fellas on here or that ya'll know would pay someone to kennel and start/train their dogs for them for a few months? Just curious..
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Cajun
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2015, 11:32:01 am » |
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Slim, I do the same thing with a 25 acre pen. Most of the hogdog pups I get in is either deer season or turkey season when people cannot run. I do get a lot of bear dog pups in to get started if they are to young to run on bear during season.
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slimhogdog
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2015, 12:33:41 pm » |
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Slim, I do the same thing with a 25 acre pen. Most of the hogdog pups I get in is either deer season or turkey season when people cannot run. I do get a lot of bear dog pups in to get started if they are to young to run on bear during season.
Do you get a fair amount of people sending you dogs? I use it for my dogs but was wondering if enough people were interested maybe I'll take other peoples dogs and start them.
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slimhogdog
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2015, 09:56:57 am » |
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I'm suprised nobody is interested in this...
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tmatt
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2015, 11:04:44 am » |
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Where are you located?
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2015, 01:07:16 pm » |
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In my opinion you would have to gear this market towards rich guys who don't want to do any work for themselves I understand buying a trained dog to get young dogs going but paying someone to train my dogs would take everything that is enjoyable about watching a dog grow and learn what you teach them away.Now renting the pen for an hourly rate for someone to train there own dogs would be something I might be interested in.There's a fellow I've heard of here in fl who has a 150acre pen and charges $5 a dog for a couple hrs of training and you just leave your money in a box honor system type deal. I have seen it advertised on boardogs the Australian site for something ridiculous like $3000 they take your dogs for 3months and intensely train them but it ain't for me.Although I'm sure that there's people out there that pay it.
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Hutch33
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2015, 01:27:13 pm » |
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There's a place out where I am that traps hogs and puts them in a 5 acre pen, then you can pay an hourly rate and take your dogs and hunt it. That type of stuff isn't for me, I'd rather take them to the woods. Might take longer but the results are far better in my opinion. Like cracker said, paying someone to take my dog for months to be trained takes away the biggest aspect of this sport that I love. I worry about outside training being as effective when its not done by who the dog sees as their "master". I also think that trust and understanding is built between you and your dog when its trained by you, over time things like that are needed for those hairy situations out hunting. Just my opinion.
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Cajun
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2015, 03:13:12 pm » |
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Slim, Most of the bear dog pups I get in can be from Dec. through April when bears are hibernating. I have had dogs from as far away as Maine & Utah. Even in bear season I get some 6 or 7 month pups in that are to young to go on bear but they want them started running a track. That way when they do have a bear track, they can just cut the pup in with the old dogs & away he goes. Some of the hog dog pups I get in are the same scenario. Turkey or deer season & the people cannot hunt & they want that young dog started. It really puts a dog ahead & you can tell a lot after a few trips to the pen which dogs have the hunt, which ones can trail, & which ones stay at your side. lol If a dog has it in them, they will hunt. They might not know what they are hunting yet but it is bred in them. A lot of people just do not have the time to fully train a dog & this helps them a lot on getting a young dog started.
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slimhogdog
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2015, 03:30:47 pm » |
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There's a place out where I am that traps hogs and puts them in a 5 acre pen, then you can pay an hourly rate and take your dogs and hunt it. That type of stuff isn't for me, I'd rather take them to the woods. Might take longer but the results are far better in my opinion. Like cracker said, paying someone to take my dog for months to be trained takes away the biggest aspect of this sport that I love. I worry about outside training being as effective when its not done by who the dog sees as their "master". I also think that trust and understanding is built between you and your dog when its trained by you, over time things like that are needed for those hairy situations out hunting. Just my opinion.
I would be open to that as well. Come run your dog for a few hours for a couple bucks. I don't see the difference in starting a puppy in a good sized woods pen vs a block of woods that isn't fenced. I find you have more control to while training than you do trying to train while hunting.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2015, 03:43:52 pm » |
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True, I can agree with you on being able to control the environment your pup would be in. That's some great training for people who don't have places.
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Slim9797
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2015, 04:04:19 pm » |
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A big pen that's stocked with some hogs. Sounds like something you could maybe make some money off of during deer season when people lose most of the land they hunt. Just drop them for an hour or so where you know there are hogs and just keep them in the game. But I could see where it could hurt a dog. Being in a pen like that too much, I could see a dog passing up colder tracks in the woods just to look for one hot track
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slimhogdog
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2015, 04:34:36 pm » |
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Where are you located?
South LA
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slimhogdog
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2015, 04:35:29 pm » |
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A big pen that's stocked with some hogs. Sounds like something you could maybe make some money off of during deer season when people lose most of the land they hunt. Just drop them for an hour or so where you know there are hogs and just keep them in the game. But I could see where it could hurt a dog. Being in a pen like that too much, I could see a dog passing up colder tracks in the woods just to look for one hot track
My main use would be to get a good start on young dogs.
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Slim9797
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2015, 04:53:01 pm » |
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Some people think a pen is a good place to start a dog. I've been told by some old timers if I want a dog to hunt you keep them in the woods and away from a pen. So I guess it's just an idea some people are gonna like and others aren't. But I agree with what's said above. Watching my dogs become what they are now and have yet still to go. Is something I wouldn't want to miss out on any dog that was gonna hunt for me
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