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Slim9797
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« on: August 23, 2015, 01:04:15 pm »

Saturday morning. Got out in some really thick fog. Dropped Red, dizzy, zona, and roxy.  Dogs make their way to far side of tank and next thing I know. My Red dog and Dawson's dizzy struck a hog. Had it bayed in the thick of it. Didn't sound like they were too far away(being excited and new to the sport I didn't look at the Garmin. Smooth move I know) so I cut chongo loose right at the tree line. We follow him in, bay breaks. So now we're standing around now in a creek bottom waiting for dogs to shut it down. Then I see a hog run behind us and my Roxy dog is on its ass(she's never seen a hog before this) we got dizzy and red together. My 9 month old cur gyp Zona off by her self, and my Roxy dog chasing a hog. And chongo(CD) is no where to be found. Get back to tank. Dogs all take 30 minutes to get back from every direction. Get going again and long story short. 3 more bays, all of them break as soon as they got started. I was still pretty happy though. My Red dog was up for sale for a very long time. She just wouldn't get out and beat the brush like I wanted her too. But she's done warmed up to me I guess cause she burned the woods up and struck 3 hogs. So she earned her keep for good. The last bay we had my two young dogs Zona and Roxy found one in the creek. I didn't even bother cutting chongo loose. I was wore out and I know he was too. That bay broke and we went to the truck and called the dogs back... Pretty upset we didn't catch any. I'm not sure what the deal is. All them dogs except Roxy have been on pigs and red and dizzy will bay like a champ in a pen and usually in the woods. I guess the hogs had their nikes on or something. Any advice for a kid new to this dog thing on what to do about these bays getting broke? my red dog after the first busted bay. After further checking her over when we got home the blood was hers. She split her ear open.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2015, 01:45:46 pm »

Need to figure out which dog is busting the bay... you won't catch many with a bay buster in the pack. Start running them one or two at a time and see if it helps.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2015, 04:31:46 pm »

I'll take that advice and run with it. Only gonna take my two finished dogs next weekend and see what happens
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2015, 09:44:43 am »

Don't know how yalls hogs do,,but over in a lot of the areas we hunt,,, Hogs wont hardly stand for more than 2 dogs baying.. unless hes rank and is where he wants to be..   But there is a big difference between a dog/dogs that know how to hold a bay and not keep knippin at the hog.. Its a big balancing act and you have to know what ur dogs are doin in the woods and not just in a bay pen.. A hog that knows he has a fence around him is not gonna act the same as a free one..
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2015, 04:11:40 pm »

These hogs ain't never seen a dog until mine. I can say that for a fact. My red gyp will get rough. Which is why I don't see how she ain't shutting these runners down. She's not a catch dog, just a decent rough strike dog. And she will bay a hog in the woods. And so will my buddies dizzy dog. So I can't think anything except either these hogs are triathletes or one of my young dogs is bustin the bay. Next time out I'm just taking my red dog and his dizzy dog. See if we can make something happen
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2015, 05:30:04 pm »

I cant stand bay busters. But sometimes u can take a bay buster and hunt him/her by themselves and they make the best dogs.

Sounds like you have alot of young dogs on the ground. Next time watch your garmin once they bayed and you can see whats happening when other dogs get there.  I would hunt your more experienced dogs solo to see what each individual dog is doing. Then try to only pair up one experienced dog with a young dog. You will eventually know whats going on.

Since the hogs arent dog smart if your dogs are rough on hogs that are bayed they will cause them to run. Dog should only be rough to stop a runner and once hog is stopped they should be backed up and baying preferably not a foot away from the hogs face. When dog is baying only a foot away hes putting to much pressure and when hog charges then runs the dog has to dodge the hogs charge or get ranover then try to play catch up to shut it down. If the dog is 5 feet or more backed up and hog runs the dog can actually react quicker to shutting the hog down.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2015, 12:49:07 pm »

Appreciate all the advice from yall. I'm 18 and haven't been around this sport for a full year yet. Have lucked into 2 real good older dogs and 2 pups that show some promise. Until just a few weeks ago I think I was like every other young kid in this game. Rushing things and expecting a jam up pack of dogs with little work. I've relaxed and now my dogs are really surprising me with their ability to go find the pigs. Now I just need them to start shutting them down when they do find them. At least long enough for the catch dog to crash the party. Any more advice is welcome! I appreciate again
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