Rough dogs video

[TheRednose]

Eastern Oklahoma

My family is out in Broken Arrow.

So I am going to assume you can only hunt pretty good size spots due to all of the bottom your Plotts have. And that right there lies the problem for me and I am sure other people as well with places getting smaller and smaller I need to get it done a little quicker than that.

[Shotgun wg]

If my dogs get over 600 to 700 yards im doing my best to close the gap. I try to keep that gap reasonable. I may have to loop around and get back in the area but I'm always headed to the dogs. Once caught I'm not miles away. I may be a half at best. But can usually narrow that down as well. I know the places I hunt very well. I also don't run my catchy dogs if I'm not 100% sure I can get to them at a reasonable rate. I hunt off a side by side and depending on area may have a 4wheeler also. Between the 2 and my knowledge of the area keeps my response time down. I have had a few times it took 45 min or more to get to them.


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Arkansas

[l.h.cracker]

 I promise you bring them long range plots down here to the rivers and swamps I hunt and they'll be gator sh@t before you make the 10miles to the bay dogs ain't the only things that go to a solid bay around here.You hunt the way that suits you best and I'll hunt the way that suits me but all the smartass ha-ha and hehe sure gets me hot.

[l.h.cracker]

Or they'll be shot and you'll be in jail for trespassing.

[Judge peel]

One thing I hear often is super rough straight catch curs are easy to find. This is far from the truth a cur that will catch any hog at any time is a rare as that no quit type dog. And if you think you have one hunt him by him self or with a loose dog you will find out right fast if he is what you think. Good dogs at any style are not at the local dog trader every day. People know I keep rough dogs and they contact me on a regular basis looking for a catching cur or super rough dog to help there pack out. My standard of a dog might not be what others are but I feed them no one else does I catch hogs with that's the bottom line that we try to achieve as hog doggers. No one style is better than the other a sharp blade cuts no matter the size


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[oconee]

I NEVER made any statements about what my dogs could or couldn't do, I only explained the style of dogs that have worked best for me around here.   I also never said you can't catch hogs with a rough pack here either.    Judge Pee jumps on everytime I posts because I called him once and told him to bring his dogs up for a hunt and pissed him off.   I've actually invited him again but as you can see he just wants to "Internet hunt" so I could give a crap less about his mouth.   Now as far as Cracker goes, I'm sure you have a nice pack of dogs and catch a lot of hogs.   I really don't know why your so butt-hurt at me to tell the truth.   All I said was I had bad experiences with rough dogs getting caught and cut down before I get to them.   You can try all week to explain how it doesn't happen to your dogs but I been doing this long enough to know why, if they truly don't stay banged up.

Rednose I hunt some really big places and a lot of public timber company lands.   And by the way, I NEVER said anything about my plotts having some kind or unreal bottom as you suggested but since you brought it up.   I don't give a damn where I hunt, if dogs run  a few minutes and come back wagging their tales and licking their nuts around here they go away.  QUICK!!   If I lived in an area where I had to feed quitters, I'd just buy some fishing tackle and take up fishing.

Now lets get one thing strait, I don't think I have any special dogs and I don't think my style of dogs are the best for anyone and everywhere so I'm tired of being acussed of having that attitude.   What I have done is state what I have seen out of certain styles of dogs around here in my lifetime of hunting and how it hasn't worked so well.   I'm not a butthole and don't ask for confrontation on this site but I've damn sure spent a lot of years following dogs and tying hogs down and through them years I have formed MANY STRONG opinions and if you can't listen to them I would advise you stop participating in PUBLIC message boards.   

[TheRednose]

Oconee I don't know why you are becoming so defensive with me, I was not attacking you at all. Quite the opposite I was just asking you some questions so I could try and see things from your perspective as I know you have a lot more experience than me. In fact I really like Plotts a lot and have always wanted one but I have never pulled the trigger due to the fact they tend to be long range and have a lot of bottom and I am afraid they might run themselves off of my spots too often. I never said your dogs had unreal bottom but I know you said they get in some pretty long races so I was believing you and basing my question off of that. You seem like a real good guy and you have a right to your opinion same as I do mine, and mine was never meant to bash you or anyone else here. I am pretty new to hunting with dogs and just trying learn why people look at things the way they do.

[Judge peel]

Oconee you keep addressing your post to me I keep making general statements why are you so angry. The way I see you are the only one running there mouth tough guy. I said yesterday I would love to come up to your neck of the woods to hunt but apparently you just like to run your mouth on this internet hunting cuz you keep saying that over and over I have seen some of your hog videos on YouTube not impressed. And why do you always say butt hurt ?


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[oconee]

Rednose I appoligize for they way I came across, just sick of being the bad guy because I'm not affraid to defend my opinions.   If your new to hog hunting with dogs then your in the right place to learn.

[oconee]

Once again Judge, I NEVER said anything about my dogs so I wouldn't expect you to be impressed with any videos of them.   Although it does say a lot for your obsession with me and my dogs that you took the time to look us up on Youtube.   I'm humbled that you took that time, I never knew you were such a fan.   Ha ha ha ha ha

[Judge peel]

I didn't look you up on YouTube you posted a link on here I simply click on it and your stuff came up. Look bubba I post on here a lot I don't search you out sometime I actually agree with thing you say as have you with me. Your probly a nice fella I don't know. But I would like to hunt with you some not to start or talk crap but just to get to know you my friend maybe then you won't be so negative towards me on this here internet


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[hoghunter71409]

Boys...I paid $1.78 for gas last night. 

Travel is cheap right now; you gonna spend all day talking about hunting together or are you going to hunt together?   

[Judge peel]

Lol that's pretty good right there fella any one that wants to hunt with me come on I don't have gas to travel very far but you can meet me at tractor supply at 8 pm Friday night in waxahatchie tx 75165 just pm if you want go that's for any one out there in internet land and you can see for your self how I conduct my self.


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[liefalwepon]

Lol that's pretty good right there fella any one that wants to hunt with me come on I don't have gas to travel very far but you can meet me at tractor supply at 8 pm Friday night in waxahatchie tx 75165 just pm if you want go that's for any one out there in internet land and you can see for your self how I conduct my self.


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thats a long drive for me!

[liefalwepon]

So judge when you say you have curs that catch, Are they mountain curs? BMC? Cats? Maybe it doesnt matter because as long as they are curs and they catch, you are good to go, but Im from California and dont know jack about hunting with curs that catch, and Im curious. Is there bulldog crossed in them?

[Judge peel]

Liefaweapon I got fl cur x cats and straight curs of different blood lines and lacy x mnt curs. I just use what and breed what works for me there are folks on here that have seen my dogs work in bay comps and on hunts some great so not so great. The individual line of that breed that caries the catching trait is how you look at it as any other yyhing you are looking for weather it's open big bark bottom so on. My best hunting buddy of 25 yrs is out in Cali working what part are you in my wife grew up in Santa Monica


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[oconee]

Judge I'll be sittin in that tractor supply Friday Oct. 2 at 6:30 p.m. on one condition.    You show me your best dog, ALONE and we'll lead a couple catch dogs to him.    I'm not interested in seeing a truck load of "me-too" dogs swarm a hog.   Then the following weekend you travel here and show him to me in my neck of the woods.

[KevinN]

Lol...Oconee, I'd love to be there as well. I'll say this, I'd put money out there saying Peels "best" (my opinion) dog will run with your hounds step for step (or better). But that ain't one of his rough dogs.

I don't hunt the same style dogs Peel does, they're just not for me....I ain't got two young bucks to haul azz to the bay/fight for me, lol. Those boys of his are hands, for sure! That being said, I'll say this, he catches a lot of hogs, and a lot of BIG RANK hogs. Sometimes with his "best" dog on the ground, sometimes not. Anyone says he runs a pack of me too rough curs...they just don't know what they're talking about.

[KevinN]

I'd say it's a rare occasion for him to have more than 3 dogs on the ground unless he's hunting with another hunter.

[oconee]

Well KevinN, make no mistake about this deal, I'm not bringing anything.    I have NEVER made any claims to what my dogs will do.   Ol' Judge here is gonna show me what he calls a "hog dog" and we're not gonna do it with 3, just 1 good dog.