Rough dogs video

[oconee]

Well thats all that matters, as long as folks are getting a good laugh.    By the way tell me again how them "ruff curs" contributed to the hunt KevinN told about.    It sounded to me like a couple pretty nice dogs had their hard work ruined by a couple half-ass alligators.    Man I gotta get me some rough dogs!   Ha ha ha.   If you and KevinN would have gotten up there with them bulldogs you could tell a good hog hunting story instead of a "fish tale."    Look guys I'm not EVER, freakin EVER gonna shut up because I know it pisses ya'll off and I truthfully I have nothing better to do.  Ha ha ha.     

Judge since your not gonna shut up either could you start a new topic and describe in more detail your definition of a "hog dog."   This is a serious ideal, I'm not gonna be a smart ass and I will post my definition on the post as well.   I think a lot of debates on these sites are largely due to the fact that everyones ideal of a good hog dog varies so much.   We don't have to be judemental towards each other and I think it would be another good and intertaining topic for the readers.   I know everyone needs different styles in different areas so take a little time to explain the needs of the dogs you describe.    This is not an attempt to stir more crap, I think it would be good so if Judge will start it, I'll comment and keep my strong opinions about other styles to myself.

[Judge peel]

I only respond to what you keep saying lol. There is no half ass to my rough dogs. Basically what your saying is that your dogs would have got it done lol. You can't every time you should know that since you seen things we only speculate on. No dog is 100% at any thing. This is a open forum so I have no problem going on and on.


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[oconee]

You see there you go again, talking number 2 about what I didn't even say.   Now you can bet you ass I wouldn't have turned a paie of "ruff dogs" loose when I got there.  I would have turned some in the meant business and thet might have gotten cut down too but at least I gave it my all.   There is a reason some dogs are called "ruff" and some are called "catch dogs."   It sounds like you and you brother should have learned something from that experience but you guys already know it all.

This cracks me up.   I posted an opinion that rough dogs didn't woek for me and 5 pages of nonsense later you guys post a story of a hunt that clearly admits they failed you miserable.    Wow, talk about beatin your head against a wall.

[KevinN]

I'll handle it Peel....the "know it all" needs more details I see, lol.

Oconee...as I mentioned before...Peels style of dogs/hunting is not the style I prefer, but I love to hunt...period....and ME PERSONALLY, I don't have a problem hunting with other folks who hunt different than I do.

Now this wasn't our first hunt together, we'd caught hogs together before...but on this particular hunt, along WITH Preacher, Id also brought a couple pups of 9-10 months of age. I'd asked Peel to alter his style a bit because I didn't want a situation to arise where the dogs WHERE caught a couple miles away and have one of my young pups get wrecked and me not be close by. He abliged and the rough curs stayed on lead more often than not. Honestly...that hog probably would have been caught, and a whole lot sooner if those dogs were running loose. Now that's....the rest of the story

[oconee]

Every thing you two have said in the last few posts describing tge details of that hunt has supported my theory on running rough dogs.    If you guys will read my first few post you'll see your making me look more and more right about my reasons for not preferring alligators.   WOW!   If ya'll agree then stop posting.

[Judge peel]

Only thing I said bout that hunt was we missed the pig lol your reaching to be right.  You are right bout one tho you never shut up


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[KevinN]

wow...lol...no budge whatsoever.

Yes...every hunt with those dogs ends exactly like that one, Peel never catches any hogs...none inside 100 yards...none over 3 miles away...none over 5 miles away. And he's GOT to lose a lot of dogs right? How many dogs you have get killed by a hog the last 5 years Peel?

[Judge peel]

Zero


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[Judge peel]

Some of the guys I hunt with have lost a few of there loose dogs tho


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[Reuben]

I really shouldn't get in the middle of this one...because I will have to dodge some bullets...

a while back I saw a video of some plotts in open woods...they were not committing to catching or stopping the hog but were really putting enough pressure to push the hog...more like bay busting...and when a dog that  bays more like a howl  "hoooooow hoooow how" can't put his mouth on a hog because he is boohooing like that...but with enough bottom that hog will come to bay somewhere sometime...

lots of gritty gritty  or as some folks call rough dogs don't have the bottom to stick for a long time...some will and still others will as long as a trail dog is leading them on the track...before anyone talks noise on this please...learn to read the dogs...yes there will be some that will do it alone but many will not...

I have seen many hard hunting dogs that don't do a good job of finding hogs and others that didn't range far but had the knack to find hogs...

Really the perfect hog dog is hard to find anywhere...because sometimes we need a rough dog and other times we need a loose baying dog...

sometimes that loose bay dog needs to put teeth on and won't even though he is in the wide open...other times the briars are so thick the rough dog becomes a bay buster...because he can't get in there to get it done

too rough and you will have dead or crippled dogs...sometimes dead due to heat exhaustion...

too too rough and they are  RCD's whose life could be shortened...

I want gritty gritty dogs that will lay some teeth but have the sense to back off and bay once they know the hogs is not going to run any more...just put enough teeth to keep them stopped...

the bad thing about these type of dogs is that sometimes they will need to go home right after one or two hogs caught...because there is no such thing as a perfect hog dog...differet situtations will make the dogs work differently...

I do like a pack of dogs that when in a big big woods to have a pack or 2 of dogs go in ahead and when they come out to the other side you go in with your pack and strike and catch a couple in a short while...especially if there are very few hogs to be found...

[Judge peel]

Ruben that's why I like all flavors of dog to make my pack not set on any one thing for the reasons you stated. 


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[oconee]

Reuben it sounds like your the smartest person to post on this topic in a long time (smarter than me for sure) and I think the dog you described are what I been trying to describe all along.   The "happy medium" is a fine line and real "hog dogs" are far and few between.    This entire site probably thinks I'm an arrogant hole in the butt just because I refuse to use the title "hog dog" loosely.

[KevinN]

You ain't the only one Oconee...BAIV don't throw it around either.....id honestly hate to be a prospect on his yard

[l.h.cracker]

Wow you are one arrogant,mouthy,SOB you remind me of every other prick in the world who won't shut up till you shut them up.You said that you're a fat ass and your fat ass couldn't hunt the way I hunt or by the sounds of it the way Judge hunts.You have to be as physically fit and as ruff as the dogs you run. So that explains why you only run loose fluffy dogs. Oconee hahaha hehehe lollollol....I couldn't be in the woods with you for 5 mins.

[Slim9797]

Well I bet my worst dog would run circles around any of yalls best dog! (no seriously, she's a pup and for the first 30 minutes likes to run around in circles trying to play with my two strike dogs while hunting) lol

[Judge peel]

Lol cracker I ain't that fit I use to be in another life. But I am still tuff as nails and don't stop but not fast but when I let my boys take over they are truly a sight to see I put them against any one any where. I have hunted with a lot of younger fellas most will not walk thru the mess we do but at the same time there are some that are good hands and good dog men.


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[oconee]

Crack-head thats about the only thing you've said since you opened your mouth that made sense.   "I couldn't be in the woods with you for 5 mins."    You couldn't carry me hunting vest kid, much less show me anything in the woods.   Typical punk kid with a handful of mutts in hog country so thick you can catch them with a pack of staghounds.

If you want to name call, I got plenty of time on my hands son!

[liefalwepon]

Liefaweapon I got fl cur x cats and straight curs of different blood lines and lacy x mnt curs. I just use what and breed what works for me there are folks on here that have seen my dogs work in bay comps and on hunts some great so not so great. The individual line of that breed that caries the catching trait is how you look at it as any other yyhing you are looking for weather it's open big bark bottom so on. My best hunting buddy of 25 yrs is out in Cali working what part are you in my wife grew up in Santa Monica


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Thanks for the info, Im learning. Im in northern Ca, Ukiah area, however I grew up in santa barbara

[liefalwepon]

I got no dog in this fight here, but one of you guys reminds of a drunk in the corner that just won't stop talking crap until somebody knocks him in the jaw   

thats some funny chit right there!!! lol

[liefalwepon]

I really shouldn't get in the middle of this one...because I will have to dodge some bullets...

a while back I saw a video of some plotts in open woods...they were not committing to catching or stopping the hog but were really putting enough pressure to push the hog...more like bay busting...and when a dog that  bays more like a howl  "hoooooow hoooow how" can't put his mouth on a hog because he is boohooing like that...but with enough bottom that hog will come to bay somewhere sometime...

lots of gritty gritty  or as some folks call rough dogs don't have the bottom to stick for a long time...some will and still others will as long as a trail dog is leading them on the track...before anyone talks noise on this please...learn to read the dogs...yes there will be some that will do it alone but many will not...

I have seen many hard hunting dogs that don't do a good job of finding hogs and others that didn't range far but had the knack to find hogs...

Really the perfect hog dog is hard to find anywhere...because sometimes we need a rough dog and other times we need a loose baying dog...

sometimes that loose bay dog needs to put teeth on and won't even though he is in the wide open...other times the briars are so thick the rough dog becomes a bay buster...because he can't get in there to get it done

too rough and you will have dead or crippled dogs...sometimes dead due to heat exhaustion...

too too rough and they are  RCD's whose life could be shortened...

I want gritty gritty dogs that will lay some teeth but have the sense to back off and bay once they know the hogs is not going to run any more...just put enough teeth to keep them stopped...

the bad thing about these type of dogs is that sometimes they will need to go home right after one or two hogs caught...because there is no such thing as a perfect hog dog...differet situtations will make the dogs work differently...

I do like a pack of dogs that when in a big big woods to have a pack or 2 of dogs go in ahead and when they come out to the other side you go in with your pack and strike and catch a couple in a short while...especially if there are very few hogs to be found...

very well said!!!