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« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2015, 09:02:04 pm » |
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There are working lines of dogos being bred in America. They're expense and take longer to mature than the average pit, so owning a dogo is like an investment. They were bred to be sensitive to their family and be docile in the home. They are a contradiction. But I do believe that the "show lines" and "working lines" of dogo are becoming two very different type of dogs. The desired look for the dogo in the show world is ruining them for what is needed in the woods. Ok...the thing to do is breed the white out of them...lol
X2 [/quote] mine are from ppc, and most are catching b/w 3-6 mo, its the only line ive owned the past 7 years since culling a few but they start early and are hard. this late starting crap is not except-able imo. if they start late why not use a scott bred ab? mine are not in the woods at that age but once their puppy teeth set and their athletic enough they are typically in the woods by 10-13 months
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« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2015, 09:05:25 pm » |
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There are working lines of dogos being bred in America. They're expense and take longer to mature than the average pit, so owning a dogo is like an investment. They were bred to be sensitive to their family and be docile in the home. They are a contradiction. But I do believe that the "show lines" and "working lines" of dogo are becoming two very different type of dogs. The desired look for the dogo in the show world is ruining them for what is needed in the woods. Ok...the thing to do is breed the white out of them...lol
X2 and yes ... why do they have to be white?? that never helps any breed, horse etc! mine are from ppc, and most are catching b/w 3-6 mo, its the only line ive owned the past 7 years since culling a few but they start early and are hard. this late starting crap is not except-able imo. if they start late why not use a scott bred ab? mine are not in the woods at that age but once their puppy teeth set and their athletic enough they are typically in the woods by 10-13 months [/quote]
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« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2015, 09:21:54 pm » |
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Yah he's still filling out. He was pretty drawn up when I got him. Trying my best
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Arturo Villarreal -V Elgin, tx 512-815-8569
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« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2015, 12:26:22 am » |
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There are working lines of dogos being bred in America. They're expense and take longer to mature than the average pit, so owning a dogo is like an investment. They were bred to be sensitive to their family and be docile in the home. They are a contradiction. But I do believe that the "show lines" and "working lines" of dogo are becoming two very different type of dogs. The desired look for the dogo in the show world is ruining them for what is needed in the woods. Ok...the thing to do is breed the white out of them...lol
X2 mine are from ppc, and most are catching b/w 3-6 mo, its the only line ive owned the past 7 years since culling a few but they start early and are hard. this late starting crap is not except-able imo. if they start late why not use a scott bred ab? mine are not in the woods at that age but once their puppy teeth set and their athletic enough they are typically in the woods by 10-13 months [/quote] I'm not a Dogo guy so may I ask what PPC is? Also do you have any pics of yours that you would not mind posting. I think they are some fine looking dogs. Appriciate it rednose, he will get his fair shot around here that's for sure!
Well he sounds like he is on the right track Art. Keep us updated on his progress, I am interested to see how he works for you.
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« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2015, 08:07:04 am » |
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This is him Good looking dog bud! Good luck! There are so many haters of every breed out there it's ridiculous! If you like the dog, he does his job, and you're fine with the way he is then don't worry about what anyone else thinks... Hunt the pads off of him and do work! So, 44mag, how many pure bred Dogos have you owned, raised, trained, and hunted behind? Your statement must be backed by some knowledge or experience... I'd like to hear it honestly.
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Do work, make chit happen, and never stop moving forward.
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« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2015, 08:11:00 am » |
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theyre good because of the pit part. the dogo side is straight junk
based off this statement you are a moron, ive got a straight dogo (and most all of her line) that anyone who knows what a cd should be like will respect. that said their are plenty bad in the breed, but despite what your limited experience has seen, it doesnt excuse your false blanket statement. I love pits and ABs too but your limited knowledge should not be taken as a fact, b/c ill show you otherwise
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Do work, make chit happen, and never stop moving forward.
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« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2015, 08:48:12 am » |
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I'll keep you guys posted. I know that so many people have there own opinions and breed they like and dislike. I'm not gunna get upset and try in change someone's opininion. He'll for the longest time, I've wanted a dogo. I'm excited to have half of one! I don't let opinion bother me much. I've stayed out of alot of trouble that'd way!
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« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2015, 10:37:34 am » |
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Took the wife and little girls to the movies the other day. You know how much a bucket of that damn popcorn is!!?
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« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2015, 10:45:47 am » |
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There are working lines of dogos being bred in America. They're expense and take longer to mature than the average pit, so owning a dogo is like an investment. They were bred to be sensitive to their family and be docile in the home. They are a contradiction. But I do believe that the "show lines" and "working lines" of dogo are becoming two very different type of dogs. The desired look for the dogo in the show world is ruining them for what is needed in the woods. Ok...the thing to do is breed the white out of them...lol
X2 and yes ... why do they have to be white?? that never helps any breed, horse etc! mine are from ppc, and most are catching b/w 3-6 mo, its the only line ive owned the past 7 years since culling a few but they start early and are hard. this late starting crap is not except-able imo. if they start late why not use a scott bred ab? mine are not in the woods at that age but once their puppy teeth set and their athletic enough they are typically in the woods by 10-13 months [/quote] I did not mean late starting, but physically mature. I had my female dogo in the woods at 4-5 months. Training starts when they can keep up. But dogos go through an awkward stage longer than most breeds imo. But I do agree with the coat color, or at least allowing more than 10% on the head.
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« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2015, 10:46:39 am » |
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He said to be dogo/pit cross. Do you guys see it?? I'm not to familiar like I said before with the dogo.
Nice looking dog, definitely see dogo in him.
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« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2015, 11:08:07 am » |
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That dogo/ pit looks good. Reminds me of an old school ab i have.
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« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2015, 12:29:16 pm » |
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Thanks
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« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2015, 12:50:32 pm » |
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Nice looking dog art
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« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2015, 01:45:18 pm » |
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There are working lines of dogos being bred in America. They're expense and take longer to mature than the average pit, so owning a dogo is like an investment. They were bred to be sensitive to their family and be docile in the home. They are a contradiction. But I do believe that the "show lines" and "working lines" of dogo are becoming two very different type of dogs. The desired look for the dogo in the show world is ruining them for what is needed in the woods. Ok...the thing to do is breed the white out of them...lol
X2 I dont sell any dogos, we have sold a few as pets and given most away to hunters for future breeding and using reasons. PPC is the kennel myself and a few others bought from, liked what we got (start early, hard, prey drive, athletic etc) and bc we are using them as cds and dont want to buy another one every time we need one, bred them and the pups have been very consistent with what we wanted. Ive stayed in touch with about 7 or 8 litters, have been a few culls of coarse but had a very high turn out compared to the other dogo kennels i had tried in the past. The PPC kennels quit breeding dogos bc Denmark outlawed them but their are still a few folks around who have the blood that I breed to when needed (for my personal or friends use). mine are from ppc, and most are catching b/w 3-6 mo, its the only line ive owned the past 7 years since culling a few but they start early and are hard. this late starting crap is not except-able imo. if they start late why not use a scott bred ab? mine are not in the woods at that age but once their puppy teeth set and their athletic enough they are typically in the woods by 10-13 months I'm not a Dogo guy so may I ask what PPC is? Also do you have any pics of yours that you would not mind posting. I think they are some fine looking dogs. Appriciate it rednose, he will get his fair shot around here that's for sure!
Well he sounds like he is on the right track Art. Keep us updated on his progress, I am interested to see how he works for you. [/quote] I cant say their worth the extra money but what ive liked about them compared to other cds ive used, is vs the pits that are as athletic as the dogo with as good endurance generally are much smaller loosing the anchor. They hold clean and dont die if bay breaks etc, Compared to the AB's ive raised and love the dogos were just easier pets as far as being stubborn digging chewing around the yard. thats just generally talking of coarse and i truly like them all ... the worst thing about them imo is its hard to find good breeders that are in it for the reasons most hunters are, and when i tried to go cheap they had skin problems ie curse of the white dog
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« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2015, 01:46:12 pm » |
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for what its worth i liked the dogo/ab cross better than the dogo/pit cross
obviously scott bred ab
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« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2015, 01:47:35 pm » |
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PPC is a kennel that sold good dogos, they are no longer in business i dont believe
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« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2015, 01:51:07 pm » |
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PPC is a kennel that sold good dogos, they are no longer in business i dont believe
Mind me asking what bloodlines?
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« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2015, 02:47:29 pm » |
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Good entertainment in this post
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« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2015, 08:03:37 pm » |
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Any dog that catches good and solid is a good dog, regardless of breed. I've had catch dogs for 25 years. One man's good catch dog is another man's average dog, is another man's junk. Have never had a straight dogo, but have had 2 dogo/pit crosses and they were both REAL GOOD. Have had a few AB's that were good catch dogs and several that were NOT. One of the best catch dogs I ever saw was a registered Catahoula. I had the FBMCO registered dog named "Benson's Clyde". He would catch and hold any hog. It really just comes down to how much you want to spend, what do you expect, how big do you like, what problems can you put up with, lead-in vs RCD, etc. etc. etc. If I had to pick only one breed, it would be pit because they consistently make the best catch dogs in the highest percentages. But there are guys with dogos that are consistently good, and AB's that are consistently good. The real debate shouldn't be over what breed is best . . . but what breeder culls the hardest, because there are superstars and garbage in all breeds. I agree that dogos would be an expensive route to take just to get lead-in catch dogs, but for RCD's I guess they are great. But all pits do not make good catch dogs. Primary example would be REAL GAME BRED PITS. They often DO NOT make good catch dogs because they want to fight a hog instead of just catch it and hold it, and they want to fight the cur dogs at the bay. But most pits at the pound are NOT high dollar prized game bred pits, so YES pits from the pound more times than not . . do work out. So there is truth in several statements made on this topic.
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« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2015, 09:06:48 pm » |
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Good looking dog hope he suits you well.
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