Walk hunting

[oconee]

All I do is walk hunt. Have 2 dogs that are finished(one ain't to much of a track dog but will wind a pig like nothing) and 3 pups that are learning. Cut them all loose. I've had so many broken bays its to the point where they've got to keep it bayed for more than 10 minutes before I make my way too them. Still have only caught one hog(this is my first year of dogging) but I'm young with the energy to do it everyday if I could so I'll go until my dogs catch on. So far more times than not, I run out of property before my dogs will quit the hog. So I call them off and start them again. I have my fun and that's all that matters to me

If you have caught only one hog you DO NOT have finished dogs. You have 6 week old pups or some culls

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Hansonw I will argue the ideal that two finished dogs should produce more than one a year but slim9797 CLEARLY said this eas his first years doggin and he was young so be decent and give him a break.   I have no problem going at the guys that claim to know it all but spare the beginners.   I remember how much of a tough time I had getting started.

[oconee]

"will NOT argue"    my bad

[hansonw]

I can go give a homeless man walking down the interstate one of my finished dogs and tell the homeless man to turn him loose when he needs a ham sandwich and that homeless man can catch a hog. So as as an experienced hog hunter I'm here to tell that beginner he does not have hog dogs. I'm not knocking his dog I'm simply telling him he don't own a hog dog


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[Judge peel]

It's not bout who can walk 4 miles lol that's stupid but who will do it to go to there dogs. Some of the places I hunt are only accessible by foot because once you cross the creek that transportation is rendered useless. Running rougher dogs going to the truck and going here and there is a bad choice. You can do that but I ain't and I ain't fast by any stretch. But I ain't seen but one fella hang with my boys when they take off I ain't saying no one can I just ain't seen em. Clearly you just want to be called the king of hog dogging that's cool I could careless I will keep taking my mutts to the woods and do what I been doing catching big boars with them.           Oconee that wast for you the other guy. But hey oconee I will definitely agree with the thing bout the one time they where better cuz no matter how good a dog or dogs are just like people there's always one better


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[hansonw]

Obliviously I get by if I catch 200 more hogs than you a year judge


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[oconee]

I will agree with EVERYTHING you say but slim9797 its asking for you to run him down.   Hes not acting like a know-it-all, hes not claiming his dogs are superior,  hes not claiming his style is the only way to hunt so he get a "bye" in my books.   I can be a prick but I'm big enough to leave innocent beginners alone.

[Judge peel]

Really dude what does it freaking matter what that kid thinks you need stop. Let the kid live his dream stop being so high almighty that's enough. Me and oconee can scream at each other all we want and more than likely care less at the end of the day and I am sure he is a good dude some fellas just don't mix. But you are taking a all time Lowe jacking with a kid who is trying to learn a sport we love good day sir!!!!!!!!!!


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[Slim9797]

Did I say these two finished dogs I hunt can't catch hogs? No because. They can. And have. I got them from people I know well and that have caught a lot of hogs(Internet dogs ain't hardly ever good dogs). So before you run your mouth on how because I have caught one hog my dogs are culls, READ! I have to call my dogs off because I run out of property. One finished dog is a rough lacy gyp and she's not smart rough either. She's dumb and If she's alive in 2 years I'll be surprised. But she will find hogs. Problem is before I got her 90% of every place she hunted had been dogged plenty. Them hogs would sit and fight, not lace up their running shoes like the hogs I hunt who have never seen dogs until mine . Sorry, I do not let my dogs cross fences after hogs because unless they run to the far side of where they normally are onto my buddies place. The other 2 neighbors will shoot my dogs. Had one tell me it to my face. I've also hunted maybe 7 times this year. And the last 3 times the hogs weren't anywhere on the ranch I hunt. This place has an amazing amount of pressure. If you have to call every man you don't know under the Suns mutts culls because it helps you feel better about yours well that's on you.

Lastly, I'm not one to be butt hurt at all. In fact I'm glad you had time to voice your opinion. But you sound like a man of no humility. Calling out a beginner like you were never there once. Just speaks on your character to me

[oconee]

Judge my dad was awful proud of me and I know he meant well but I got a little tired of having to fight, race, arm wrestle, or out lift everyone he thought was a worthy adversary.     I'm sure your boys are tough as nails but I don't figure their as fired up about everyone knowin as you are.    They probaly don't feel like they have anything to prove although I'm sure they take any challenge you need them to take to make YOURSELF feel better.

[oconee]

Slim9797 PM me if you want to come up to Oklahoma I have plenty of places we can hunt and you can get your dogs on some good action.

[Judge peel]

Oconee I don't have to make my self feel better I had plenty of accomplishment for my self as a young man. I talk about them because I am proud of them once again as always you try to make me a joke lol I don't care. You know nothing of me guy but you act like you do


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[hansonw]

No I'm telling him he needs to reevaluate these finish dogs and the person that sold him finished dogs bc they are not what they are supposed to be


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[Black Streak]

I'm not exactly at my "fightin weight" nowadays but I figure I could follow 95% on this site anywhere they wanted to walk.   Its never been about being tough or hardheaded about how I hunt to me.    I think the more versatile a guys dogs are the more oopportunities they will present for you.   My favorite is to rig hunt.    I either rig out of my pick-up or walk my dogs into potential areas.   My dogs are all taught to stay close to me when I'm walking  (alphas are nice for this  lol) and most folks would not approve of this but where I hunt dogs just can't go any random direction and find a hog so I don't have time to wait on a dog to make a 1000 yd cast in the wrong direction.   I am way smarter than any dog alive and I will dictate the areas we hunt if we are walking.   Two years ago a guy came to hunt with me and we were driving to the woods and the two dogs I had blew up in the box and as I slowed down he asked "what are you doin?"   Lol I said "fixing to catch this hog"   10 minutes later we tied a very nice boar that him or his dogs never knew was alive.   I got a kick as we were loading the hog he said "well I don't hunt like that, my dogs go hunting and find hogs."       Lol.    No style is better than the other until the time that one style is better than the other.

All makes since now.    No wonder you think your so good and your dogs are so good.    Your proud moment was a typical deal for the rest of us.    Just because you can go to a school yard and beat the crap out of every kid their don't make you aand awsome fighter.   Same as someone decent with decent dogs going hunting with people that have never gone or who are new to hog dogging.   Ain't hard to look good and get the big head and think your special when you go play in the kiddy pool.    Ain't nothing special about you or your dogs.   You a dime and them are a dime a dozen on here as far as skill level goes.   

[oconee]

You nailed it black hawk.   I never even seen a good dog and the guys I hunt with are clowns without a clue.

Look we can trash up every topic someone starts with our childish bickeing but the truth is, your not gonna bother me with anything you post on here and I can't get you to realize that a mutt that has to be walked or roaded over a hog to find it isn't a hog dog.   I don't give a damn if it catches too, its just an overly rough cull to me.    Tell you what I won't address you anymore and you don't address me.   Deal?   The rest of the members would probably appreciate it.

[KevinN]

Oconee...honest to god question here, not poking. You've got huge tracts of land to hunt so you rig or cast mostly, walk into honey holes just to check them out, makes sense...my kinda hunting. But you train your dogs to stay close while walking, and they don't make big loops? Now, "close" is relative...close to me is 200-300 yards. That being said...once they hit a track, they take it to the source right? I mean...I don't see how you could keep them close walking but still expect them to cast properly. Honestly man...not poking at you...just confused.

[hansonw]

No I'm telling him he needs to reevaluate these finish dogs and the person that sold him finished dogs bc they are not what they are supposed to be


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[oconee]

Good and respectful questio Kevin.    I start all my pups with an experienced and completely trash broke dog.   By doing this I know anytime a pups gets out of sight he is just fixing to trash or is just screwing off so I bring them back with a light shock at first and soon they leaen to response to my call or the tone.    I know this sounds crazy to some but its my way.    My dogs will occasionally wind hogs but 95% of hogs I run are trailed up.    My style is much like a dry gtound mt lion hunter covering countryin efforts to "cut a track" and I don't want three dogs 600-800 yds in different directions while I'm walking in my direction of choice.    This is the way I like to do it and it sound unproductive to many and I completely undetstand why it would.     It is a "trail dog" style and I like to train my young dogs to trail.   I'm not bragging but many times I cross tracks during the day and when the dogs leave my sight I know whats up and whats fixing to happen.   I used to hunt wild rangy deep casting cur crosses and rarely did they trail a hog over a mile but the I CONSISTENTLY seen these dogs trail (not run) over a mile before they find hogs that may have been bedded since daylight.    The rangy deep casting dogs eorked well but I can honestly say after hunting that style for 12-13 yrs and this style for 5-6 that this clearly works better around my area.

I hate to be embassed by my dogs and I have been several times over the yrs but the two most embarrassing things that can happen IMO is when someones dog trails up and finds a hog that my dogs couldn't even smell.  I'm not talking about being in the right place and finding a hog, I mean walking right away and my dog not even having a clue what the other dog is trailing.     Now thats embarrassing.   Lol.   The other thing is when my dog quits and comes back.   Whether is gets hurt or just don't have bottom.   When one comes back I can't stand it so thats the two things I try to avoid with my dogd.   

Sorry for the rambling.

[KevinN]

Oconee....When you cast, what do you expect out of your dogs? What kind of area are you wanting covered? Or just strictly check the track you drop them on to see if it's in the right time frame to hold their attention?

[oconee]

When I open my box if a dog leaves sight it needs to be trailing.   No "cast" whatsoever.   If I put on a track they either start trailing or I load them up and I go on down the road.    If I decide to walk then I already know where I expect to find hogs and they stay with me unless we cut a track on the way.  I also rig alot at night and its no different.   If they bark I stop and open the box.    They trail or I load them back up, no road running or jackassin around.

I don't think you understand, I'm not trying to accomplish ANYTHING but train my pups to trail.   I'm not concerned with a dogs whipping the brush until he bumps into a hog or a hot track.     That occasionally happens but I don't set out looking for that scenario.     I have said it a 100 times on here, I hunt for the dog work , not the hogs!

[Black Streak]

I can go give a homeless man walking down the interstate one of my finished dogs and tell the homeless man to turn him loose when he needs a ham sandwich and that homeless man can catch a hog. So as as an experienced hog hunter I'm here to tell that beginner he does not have hog dogs. I'm not knocking his dog I'm simply telling him he don't own a hog dog


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neither do you because it takes several of your dogs to find and catch a pig.    Lot of us have dogs that do that by themselves.   You don't.    All you have are half hog dogs