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« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2015, 06:32:04 pm »

Oconee...mainly what I was asking was, well I don't know, a time frame of sorts I guess. When dropped on a crossing point or track, Most dogs worth feeding are gonna throw their nose down and start working. Some just work a track longer than others you know.

So...I guess what I'm asking is....when you cast, are you trying to cast on a hot enough track that you think your dogs will get on the hog quick or do you just let them work the track until they decide to give it up?

I know some trophy hunters down south of me that strictly cast on big tracks...trophy hunters. They'll pass up red hot tracks of a smaller size or group of pigs but turn out on just about any big track...hot OR cold.
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« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2015, 06:32:47 pm »

Did I say these two finished dogs I hunt can't catch hogs? No because. They can. And have. I got them from people I know well and that have caught a lot of hogs(Internet dogs ain't hardly ever good dogs). So before you run your mouth on how because I have caught one hog my dogs are culls, READ! I have to call my dogs off because I run out of property. One finished dog is a rough lacy gyp and she's not smart rough either. She's dumb and If she's alive in 2 years I'll be surprised. But she will find hogs. Problem is before I got her 90% of every place she hunted had been dogged plenty. Them hogs would sit and fight, not lace up their running shoes like the hogs I hunt who have never seen dogs until mine . Sorry, I do not let my dogs cross fences after hogs because unless they run to the far side of where they normally are onto my buddies place. The other 2 neighbors will shoot my dogs. Had one tell me it to my face. I've also hunted maybe 7 times this year. And the last 3 times the hogs weren't anywhere on the ranch I hunt. This place has an amazing amount of pressure. If you have to call every man you don't know under the Suns mutts culls because it helps you feel better about yours well that's on you.

Lastly, I'm not one to be butt hurt at all. In fact I'm glad you had time to voice your opinion. But you sound like a man of no humility. Calling out a beginner like you were never there once. Just speaks on your character to me


way to put them one dementional thinking guys in their place.    
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« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2015, 06:38:45 pm »

You nailed it black hawk.   I never even seen a good dog and the guys I hunt with are clowns without a clue.

Look we can trash up every topic someone starts with our childish bickeing but the truth is, your not gonna bother me with anything you post on here and I can't get you to realize that a mutt that has to be walked or roaded over a hog to find it isn't a hog dog.   I don't give a damn if it catches too, its just an overly rough cull to me.    Tell you what I won't address you anymore and you don't address me.   Deal?   The rest of the members would probably appreciate it.


why is that?   Are you getting embarrassed that your dogs can't do what some of the others dogs on here can do? Or is your puppy mill suffering because people are finding out you ain't got real hog dogs like you claim because they are just half what it takes to catch a pig
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« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2015, 06:41:57 pm »

I don't have a hog dog? Your right I just catch all of these hogs with house cats. You also forget I like a rough dog.


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« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2015, 06:54:30 pm »

Good grief guys this isn't Facebook!
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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2015, 06:56:32 pm »

I don't have a hog dog? Your right I just catch all of these hogs with house cats. You also forget I like a rough dog.


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Your the one or one of the ones saying how great your dogs are and that they are HOG DOGS and rest of us ain't got dogs as good as you.    That's cool, just like pointing out it takes at least two of your dogs to do what one of  several other dogs people have on this forum can do.     We ain't saying our dogs are special or better than everybody else's like you and the two other guys are.   However, I do like rubbing it in your face that your dogs you keep saying are better than everyone else's can't do but half what many of the other dogs.     You and your buddies keep making claims like that and I'll certainly down play your dogs because why?    Because they can't do but half what our dogs can.    
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« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2015, 07:26:45 pm »

I think some of y'all fellas need to travel, hunt some other country and see what your dogs are really made of... you'll be surprised.

You'll definitely reevaluate what you consider a hog dog to be.
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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2015, 07:32:41 pm »

Yes sir mike I believe that to but I think a good dog should do ok where ever he goes. My pack is built for where I hunt but I think I could do ok in other area. One good thing bout hogs is no matter where you live they smell the same


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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2015, 07:44:25 pm »

No no no. Read my post I said what I have I would call  average not awesome. Called averaged to what real hog hunters that know what hog dogs are. So probably better than what rookies call average just like a rookie calls a finished dog a dog that has only caught one hog in a year. So our definitions are probably not the same. I don't think half on these board has what your describing.  You can't downplay someone who has caught thousands of hogs either.... So that's not getting to me. Do I think a dog running 40 mph across a field catching a hog is cool? Yeah probably a sight to see. I have got to see dogs running them in the wide open tons of times its a cool thing to watch. After reading tons of post on this board in the last few days there's a few things I can say for certain. People adapt there hunting style to what the terrain is. Obviously you hunt a lot of flat open terrain bc obviously they run them down in the open. Next in some places some people have to walk hunt bc either they can't afford to ride something or it is no way in hell you could drive anywhere and it would take longer than if gone by foot. So is there places to walk? Yes is there places you can use finder holders? Yes is there places you ride a damn sidexside and drink beer? Yes. The post of walk hunting does not mean to me there is no such thing or that must be bc you have number 2ty dogs.  Around here to me and bo there is really no where in the surrounding counties of his county or mine that you really can't hunt off a utv or atv  at all. Yeah there's times that you may have to get off and walk but for the most part dang near any of them the aid of a atv will get you there to your dogs quicker. So to us people around here that do walk hunt we know there dogs suck. Bc that tells us they want leave there feet and hunt. Now your terrain in Texas or whatever state can be a completely  different thing. So the start of my thread how many hogs do you catch that was to see if it's different over there as far as what my perception is of a walk hunter here. So when I started getting the low numbers instead of 100 or more. I was like well sounds like a lot of walk hunters here.  So I am all for a man to hunt the way he can. I have been coming off as a complete dick to most the last two days but I will say there is nothing like being in gods country in the great outdoors. So if a kid or a man just likes simply being in the woods bc they love it but don't have a dog that's good at all that's fine with me and I respect that. I'm not telling anyone that loves being in the woods to kill your dogs their not good. I would help a beginner anyway as I could. Was telling the newbie his dogs suck right? Probably not... But I would have never said that if he wouldn't of used the term finished dogs. I'm not trying to tell anyone what they should feed. I'm trying to tell some people that really think there dogs are what they supposed to be some of them probably ain't what you think if you have ever been with a sure enough hog dog. There is always somebody with a better dog and a better place to hunt. We all turned these threads in to who has the best dog or the most culls myself was one of the main ones. My post was directed to people who think they own a sure enough hog dog. I didn't ask people who knew there dog wasn't any good to post. At the end of the day we are all blessed to be able to live in a country that allows us to number 2 talk on our iPhones and laptops all day about how the guys dog in bama and Texas suck lol.


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« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2015, 07:48:46 pm »

Kevin, Peel, Black Steak, or anyone else for that matter is welcome to come hunt with me anytime after deee season.   I have nothing to prove and you probably won"t be "wowed" but I am tired of acting like a bunch of kids.   Frankly I'm ashamed of how I have acted one this site.    I would love for Black Streak to come especially!    By the way the next person to address me directly is a coward if its not to arrange a hunt together.    I will travel ANYWHERE as long as whoever I join joins me in return.   Black Streak if you think I won"t drive to the end of the earth to hunt with you then your CRAZY.
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« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2015, 07:55:29 pm »

My dogs are so crappy I take a fishing pole on a hog hunt
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« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2015, 07:55:39 pm »

Oconee I'm not welcomed:(


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« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2015, 08:00:16 pm »

Hanson anyone is welcome but truth is I think me, you and Bo are on the same oage as far as what "hog dogs" must do.    You can come anytime you want but I bet we won't learn much from each other.   Come on if you want tho!
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« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2015, 08:02:39 pm »

Oconee I know me and you ain't been the kindest to each other. But I have always been a man of my word and big enough to stand up to the music. I would like to come up and hunt with you I love hounds and to hunt. If your really on the up and up I ain't a bad guy I am pretty sure you ain't ether. This ain't a joke


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« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2015, 08:04:58 pm »

You may be surprised Oconee I'm really a 14 year old with a miniature pincher that's just plays awesome behind the keyboard lol


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« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2015, 08:24:29 pm »

The young man just started maybe they aren't finished but but i no when I started I caught 3 the first yr with my dogs by themselves i was happy as hell with them then now looking back I wouldn't have kept none of them but I wouldn't do it any different if I had a chance I was having fun and couldn't spend any big money to get going and worked with what I had
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« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2015, 08:26:24 pm »

Kevin, Peel, Black Steak, or anyone else for that matter is welcome to come hunt with me anytime after deee season.   I have nothing to prove and you probably won"t be "wowed" but I am tired of acting like a bunch of kids.   Frankly I'm ashamed of how I have acted one this site.    I would love for Black Streak to come especially!    By the way the next person to address me directly is a coward if its not to arrange a hunt together.    I will travel ANYWHERE as long as whoever I join joins me in return.   Black Streak if you think I won"t drive to the end of the earth to hunt with you then your CRAZY.


I'm not totally against sharing a hunt or two with you two fellers but before that happens, I think it best to see how things go for a while.     Better to establish some respect for each other for a while on the count of the past 3 threads we have went back and forth on than to experience an ego trip in the woods.      I'm glad you to got humble but i doubt it was anything the rest of us been saying that was the reason for the change.    More like a moderator had a private conversation with yall it screams to me like.     Whatever the change, I appreciate it and you two guys showed grace.    Pardon me if I'm skeptical for a while though.    I look forward to friendly conversations with yall and hopefully some good hunting with yall in the future!!!
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« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2015, 08:31:03 pm »

I hunt very little nowadays...not by choice but that is how it is...my ramblings are more from past experience and with the dogs I had bred for 5 and 7 generations and more...so having said that...

I will never shock a pup in the woods on account I do not want them to associate the shock to ranging as being the bad thing they did...I want my pups to range out...I make sure they know it is acceptable to run hogs in the woods before I even think about shocking them off of trash...I try to break them off of cows at my brothers house as pups and off of deer in my back yard but only after they have been worked in the bay pen...I do not want them to associate baying as the bad thing...back before 4 wheelers and telemetry we walked and ran as much as possible to keep the dogs in hearing distance...I remember doing lots of searching...lost my voice for a while from hollering for my dogs...truck horn blowing...cow horn blowing...modern technology is nice...

what is the most important thing for me is to do all I can to bring out the best from my dogs...to bring out the very best in them is my #1 priority otherwise they will pick up bad habits...good dogs with proper handling makes for better dogs...

Walking is for the younger guys...I will do it if need be but I will ride as close as I can until traveling on foot is faster...
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« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2015, 08:33:48 pm »

I appreciate the invitation.
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I have conditions though! U have to let me buy your gas, drinks, and dinner!
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I also insist on leading your catch dog fer ya! I enjoy ridin along and learnin and seein how other folks hunt and handle their dogs and situations.
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Y'all still gonna have that Plott Days event in March? Seriously thinkin about coming if u r.
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« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2015, 08:33:59 pm »

The young man just started maybe they aren't finished but but i no when I started I caught 3 the first yr with my dogs by themselves i was happy as hell with them then now looking back I wouldn't have kept none of them but I wouldn't do it any different if I had a chance I was having fun and couldn't spend any big money to get going and worked with what I had
I think the fella is still in high school to. Probably aint got to much time to beat the bushes. I think hog hunting, (or any kind of outdoors) should be promoted and exposed in a positive fashion to guys like him. Number one because its all going to be over real soon if we dont all stick together and get the youth involved. And second of all: I wish I would have got involved at an early age. God knows I went way in the opposite direction and damn near threw my life away. Who knows a good time in the woods might just save a man early on in his life and he never even know it.
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