When Selling Hog Dogs...

[Reuben]

nice pups...I like the black male...

The one with the white sox or without?


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without...but the only thing I don't like about that pup is the chrome...he is a nice looking pup...of course all this is personal preference...lol

[Black Streak]

Black streak, if you throw a carcass in a pen with multiple dogs, don't they fight?


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Grown dogs will wait their turn according to pecking order if they don't feel like sharing.        Pups well you better give them individual pieces  instead of one large piece to start with.   They will then graze on the large piece piecfully.      I have a large pen I can turn into 3 pens for single dogs if i need to seperat them for any reason.    I rotate the dogs sometimes, putting them in an individual pen for several days.    I dont like having them live together all the time.   I dont want them longing for another dog to be with them if the are seperated.    I just prefer them to be able to run and play in huge pens is the reason I keep a lot of them together in the two really big pens.

[liefalwepon]

I accidentally ran that lil cat male over, that brindle female gets out there. I used to have a really good young dog from the same breeding but a different litter, the first hog I turned him in on he latched on to his face at ten months, was striking his own at a year, died from a snake bite just shy of a year and a half
 
There's going to be some winners in this litter, it's a proven cross, the pups usually range from good to great, the owner of the parents keeps saying it's the dams last litter, I really lucked out

I have four pups that are from the same dam but different sire, I took the best male out for his first couple hunts last week, we got outran the first hunt, he was right there in the action, ran out 500 where they got outran then he came back and went 300 on the backtrack, the second time I took him he was running right with my lead dog the whole time and they took a track out 900 from the truck, I hauled ass in that direction and by the time I got to where they were they were another 800 out and heading for some private land, so I gave my lead dog a light shock and they came back. From what the Garmin was saying it seemed the young dog was taking the lead on the track at times. I'm going to take his siblings out next week when I get their vests

I'm really excited for these young dogs to show me what they got and start striking so I can get rid of my lead dog, he's just not putting bacon on the plate


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[TheRednose]

I accidentally ran that lil cat male over, that brindle female gets out there. I used to have a really good young dog from the same breeding but a different litter, the first hog I turned him in on he latched on to his face at ten months, was striking his own at a year, died from a snake bite just shy of a year and a half
 
There's going to be some winners in this litter, it's a proven cross, the pups usually range from good to great, the owner of the parents keeps saying it's the dams last litter, I really lucked out

I have four pups that are from the same dam but different sire, I took the best male out for his first couple hunts last week, we got outran the first hunt, he was right there in the action, ran out 500 where they got outran then he came back and went 300 on the backtrack, the second time I took him he was running right with my lead dog the whole time and they took a track out 900 from the truck, I hauled ass in that direction and by the time I got to where they were they were another 800 out and heading for some private land, so I gave my lead dog a light shock and they came back. From what the Garmin was saying it seemed the young dog was taking the lead on the track at times. I'm going to take his siblings out next week when I get their vests

I'm really excited for these young dogs to show me what they got and start striking so I can get rid of my lead dog, he's just not putting bacon on the plate


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Thats a shame about the little cat, I liked him. I'm glad your other young ones are starting to work for ya. I will be up by ya on friday and saturday as I am picking up a dog from up north. Good luck with your pups I bet you get some good ones from them.

[liefalwepon]

What town you picking the dog up in?


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[liefalwepon]

He's half stag, quarter pit and quarter dogo


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[liefalwepon]

Oops wrong thread


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[TheRednose]

What town you picking the dog up in?


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East of Redding

[Reuben]

Reuben your are 100% wrong on the tightly linebred dogs needing vaccines because of deficient immune systems.   Since becoming interested in plotts and devoting 100% of my time learning and researching plotts and bloodlines I have noticed that there are countless strains held together by individuals, some with NO outcrosses for 40-50 years and the myth about genetic effects on the immune system simply don't hold water.   I can show you pedigrees that you would swear the offspring would have 5 legs and 3 eyes but its by no means the case.   I have not bred my dogs that tight YET but I damn sure will when the cream begins to rise to the top.    I can name four men that have and I have seen numerous plotts from each of the EXTREMELY tight breedings and was pleasantly suprised with the consistency in the dogs from each strain with ABSOLUTLY NO ill effects on tge immune systems or conformation.   Not trying to be a butt (again lol) but I could not disagree with a statement anymore than I do the statement you made.    Take care

back in the 1980's it seems there was lots of articles on "Inbreeding Depression" and "Hybrid Vigor"...the old timers called inbreeding depression "Tired Blood"...so outcrossing or crossing to a different family of dogs would bring back hybrid vigor...

my theory or logical explanation as to what many old time breeders believed back then...such as making dogs crazy and dumb etc...etc...probably had a lot to do with breeding depression issues...it happened sooner in humans than with dogs...so breeding best to the best and keeping them unrelated was probably due to what had been experienced in the early times...back then there was no such thing as vaccines and the medicines were limited so in my opinion it was a good way to produce healthy animals even if there was a higher cull rate in those days because of the increased diversity...

below I copied from the net...I tried to copy and paste the definition of both inbreeding depression and hybrid vigor but I couldn't get it to copy so you will have to open the link...

http://dictionary.reference.com/slideshows/travel-words#wayfarer

[Reuben]

ok...it worked this time...

inbreeding depression in Science Expand


inbreeding depression   
The loss of vigor and general health that sometimes characterizes organisms that are the product of inbreeding. Compare hybrid vigor.
 

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hybrid vigor in Science Expand


hybrid vigor   
The increased vigor or general health, resistance to disease, and other superior qualities that are often manifested in hybrid organisms, especially plants and animals. Compare inbreeding depression.
 

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