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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2015, 01:21:51 pm » |
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Curcross you explained exactly what I meant. Mr. Oinker I'm not tryin to be a dick, I'm just surprised that if you have hunted with guys for awhile that they have not offered something that would get you started.
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2015, 01:55:15 pm » |
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Cool lookin dog right there.
Thank you, I am ready to get him on a pig but I am trying to just woods train him and not use a bay pen just cause he's already 8 months and he is somewhat timid in the woods anyway. Hopefully over the next few weeks I can get him trained a little better, the previous owner didn't work on the basics even haha. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2015, 03:47:21 pm » |
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if you pay for dogs, at this point in your hog hunting education, youre likely going to get screwed. and ,you need to go either loose or rough, not mixed like you said before. hunt with a lot of guys. Work. Make a hand, and if you show respect, loyalty, and you are dependable $1000 dogs will get thrown your way. You CANT buy your way into hog hunting... you CAN spend a ton of money, but..... your better off going to the casino.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2015, 04:01:23 pm » |
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Curcross you explained exactly what I meant. Mr. Oinker I'm not tryin to be a dick, I'm just surprised that if you have hunted with guys for awhile that they have not offered something that would get you started.
They only feed about 3 dogs at a time, if one gets killed they either try to use a favor and get another or they start over with pups. That being said most of the people they gets dogs from act like its pulling teeth to let go of a dog so the whole "friend of a friend" thing doesn't work so well. |
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2015, 04:04:01 pm » |
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if you pay for dogs, at this point in your hog hunting education, youre likely going to get screwed. and ,you need to go either loose or rough, not mixed like you said before. hunt with a lot of guys. Work. Make a hand, and if you show respect, loyalty, and you are dependable $1000 dogs will get thrown your way. You CANT buy your way into hog hunting... you CAN spend a ton of money, but..... your better off going to the casino.
I wanted a mix of the two because the people I have hunted with have a bird dog that will find one from a ways and is the lead find dog but he bays loose and that's okay. They also run a more gritty dog that will find his own and help catch. I really like the setup because it keeps the best dog away from harm as much as possible. |
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2015, 05:32:39 pm » |
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There's also alot of good info on here about gaining the trust of a shy dog.
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Take your kids hunting and you wont have to hunt your kids
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2015, 06:01:05 pm » |
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U can get a catchdog from the pound.
You need figure out what type of dog you want. Short range, long range, rough, bay, etc.
Breed a good English Pointer to a good gamey leggy pit and I guarantee that you will get hunting dogs. Raise the whole litter up and pick the ones you want, sell the rest. It's the best absolute way to get quality hunting dogs.
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2015, 06:55:41 pm » |
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if you pay for dogs, at this point in your hog hunting education, youre likely going to get screwed. and ,you need to go either loose or rough, not mixed like you said before. hunt with a lot of guys. Work. Make a hand, and if you show respect, loyalty, and you are dependable $1000 dogs will get thrown your way. You CANT buy your way into hog hunting... you CAN spend a ton of money, but..... your better off going to the casino.
this man is not lying. Now I cannot say I've had a $1,000 dog thrown my way but I've been given a RCD that I would have paid $6-800 for and I've been given a pup that's from good blood and I'm fixing to go hunt a solid finished gyp that might get given to me. If you can get a dog man to take you hunting you got that first hunt to convince him your the real deal. If you can do that, atleast from my experience you get welcomed with open arms and people are more than willing to help you out whether it's giving you a good dog or just showing and telling you the things you want to know. |
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2015, 07:06:32 pm » |
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Curcross you explained exactly what I meant. Mr. Oinker I'm not tryin to be a dick, I'm just surprised that if you have hunted with guys for awhile that they have not offered something that would get you started.
They only feed about 3 dogs at a time, if one gets killed they either try to use a favor and get another or they start over with pups. That being said most of the people they gets dogs from act like its pulling teeth to let go of a dog so the whole "friend of a friend" thing doesn't work so well. Someone's having litters, make friends with that guy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2015, 07:08:43 pm » |
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U can get a catchdog from the pound.
You need figure out what type of dog you want. Short range, long range, rough, bay, etc.
Breed a good English Pointer to a good gamey leggy pit and I guarantee that you will get hunting dogs. Raise the whole litter up and pick the ones you want, sell the rest. It's the best absolute way to get quality hunting dogs.
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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2015, 07:34:30 pm » |
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You can get a catch dog all day long at the pound but it's a gamble of sorts. A cd price is 150 to 300 is going rate you will have that in a pound dog in few weeks and it might be a cull or a fighter. Best to get one that is solid so what ever other dogs you have will not put in work for nothing. Your only going to know what you like to you try it for a while.
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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2015, 07:51:47 pm » |
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Thanks for all the good advice guys! I'll search for the info on shy dogs.
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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2015, 09:18:49 pm » |
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Curcross you explained exactly what I meant. Mr. Oinker I'm not tryin to be a dick, I'm just surprised that if you have hunted with guys for awhile that they have not offered something that would get you started.
They only feed about 3 dogs at a time, if one gets killed they either try to use a favor and get another or they start over with pups. That being said most of the people they gets dogs from act like its pulling teeth to let go of a dog so the whole "friend of a friend" thing doesn't work so well. If you'll read what you wrote again, you'll realize what Wayoutwest meant. They act likes it's pulling teeth to get a pup cuz they don't know you. Now if you spent quite a bit of time catching hogs with em and letting them learn you watch you prove yourself to them, chances are you wanted have to ask for a pup, they'd ask you to raise one. |
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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2015, 10:57:47 pm » |
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If you find you an established older guy and make a hand just as Ed said. Life would be much easier. If you intend to make a pack out of another man's culls you better have a good eye for a dog. If you plan to buy your way in send me 3000 and I will send you a dog worth 500. That will save you some time and probly money.
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« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2015, 01:06:02 am » |
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Shotgun said it, you don't buy your way into this game. Youd go broke
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« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2015, 04:40:37 am » |
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I sold out in 2007...in 2009 9 I got back in and am just now liking the 7 I have...I leased a Plott gyp for a fair price but drove 40 hours total to pick her up and drop her back off...She is a good hog dog and she was out of the mans best dogs and the line out of some well know big game dogs...and I bred her to one of my males...and I like four pups that are 7 months yesterday...I believe in breeding my own because in my opinion I have a better chance getting what I want...
if you don't mind the wait get you an older gyp not needed or a female out of excellent stock that is not that good,buy her cheap and breed her to a good stud and you will have something to take to the woods in a year...
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2015, 06:59:27 am » |
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Curcross you explained exactly what I meant. Mr. Oinker I'm not tryin to be a dick, I'm just surprised that if you have hunted with guys for awhile that they have not offered something that would get you started.
They only feed about 3 dogs at a time, if one gets killed they either try to use a favor and get another or they start over with pups. That being said most of the people they gets dogs from act like its pulling teeth to let go of a dog so the whole "friend of a friend" thing doesn't work so well. If you'll read what you wrote again, you'll realize what Wayoutwest meant. They act likes it's pulling teeth to get a pup cuz they don't know you. Now if you spent quite a bit of time catching hogs with em and letting them learn you watch you prove yourself to them, chances are you wanted have to ask for a pup, they'd ask you to raise one. I don't think I conveyed myself clearly. I'm saying the people I hunt with can barely get dogs for themselves, even know they've known the breeders for years. But I understand what y'all mean. I come from a pretty small area and there's not too many doggers around. I might could make friends with ranchers and get some good cow dog blood lines though. Any thoughts? |
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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2015, 07:01:46 am » |
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I sold out in 2007...in 2009 9 I got back in and am just now liking the 7 I have...I leased a Plott gyp for a fair price but drove 40 hours total to pick her up and drop her back off...She is a good hog dog and she was out of the mans best dogs and the line out of some well know big game dogs...and I bred her to one of my males...and I like four pups that are 7 months yesterday...I believe in breeding my own because in my opinion I have a better chance getting what I want...
if you don't mind the wait get you an older gyp not needed or a female out of excellent stock that is not that good,buy her cheap and breed her to a good stud and you will have something to take to the woods in a year...
That was another question I had. I did get offered a BMC gyp that wouldn't hunt but she was built very nicely but I was afraid to take her and breed her because everything I've ever been told says that bloodline is the most important factor. Would I have a good chance at some decent pups with only one parent being a hunting dog? |
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« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2015, 09:42:36 am » |
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I would not breed the gyp unless all of her ancestors where very good dogs I would not breed a gyp that didn't hunt that is from dogs that didn't hunt just to get pups
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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2015, 11:25:29 am » |
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There are good dogs to buy that give you a good head start you can find em and be hunting good very quick. Then add one here and there don't think you have to breed dogs just to get started that is mistake number one I would say get a few yrs of experience with dogs you like and make wise choices with your dogs this will take you farther faster remember slower is faster when your prudent
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