Best dry ground hounds

[liefalwepon]

What kind of hounds make the best dry ground lion dogs?

[Reuben]

I know one fella that can contribute but he probably won't even though he will read this thread...

[Cajun]

There is no right or wrong answer. There are cold nose dogs in every breed that are lion dogs. Best thing you could do is find successful lion hunters in the area you want to hunt & get hounds from them.

[dodo1987]

I've hunted cats alot growing up its all in personal preference I have hunted behind good lion hounds off all breeds I personal like black and tans or plotts but had jam up walkers and even a few good English hounds find some one who hunts in similar conditions and talk to them were I hunted was up in the Rockies and across Wyoming Utah Colorado but a good hound should be able to run track no matter where your hunting 

[liefalwepon]

There is no right or wrong answer. There are cold nose dogs in every breed that are lion dogs. Best thing you could do is find successful lion hunters in the area you want to hunt & get hounds from them.

I figured that would be your answer, cajun do you have anyone running your dogs in the southwest deserts?

[Juan Horton]

For me I would say a cayjun dog. I have treed a few bobcat with mine.

[oconee]

Never been lion hunting in my life but I have gotten to know a few real good lion hunters and its been explained to me much like hog hunting in VERY THIN hog country.   I compared it to this because they basically use two different styles depending on personal preference.    Some run SUPER cold nosed dogs that grub and grind on the slightest of scent (often times days old) and others prefer the more moderate nosed dogs that move any track the have the ability to smell at a good pace and have a vety high "jump" precentage.   If a guys likes spending hours upon hours watching dogs walk and grub on a day+ old track with the ultimate reward being seeing their dogs jump that horrific track then I would contact folks that hunt that style and have success.     The other style misses the SUPER cold tracks and only open on the tracks they can move and jump.   Now its obvious the more moderately nosed dogs will often need to be hunted ovee more country but in a course of a yers time and time lost working tracks all day with no jump the laws of averages work it all out about even.   Its been explained to me bt a very successful lion hunter that both styles work and produce evenly but its just whether you'd rather spend that day working a low precentage track or riding looking for a slam dunk.

If I was starting out lion hunting I would ask myself what intetest me more and search out that style of hunter and go from their.    Good luck

[Cajun]

Yes, I have sent quite a few out west. Tom David (Summit Guiding & Outfitters) had a male Plott Gumbo that was his main dog for years. Tom reside in Alburqurkie but hunted the White Mountain Apache Res. in Arizona.
  Mike Williams (Neshobia Outfitters) from Colorado & New Mexico bought quite a few from me. He hunted mostly bear but some lion too.
  Greg Anderson & his daughter Nikki bought a female from me that they swear is the best lion dog they had. I think they are from Arizona & Utah.. It did not matter what they breed her to, she produced a lot of bear dogs.
  Over the years, they have spread out pretty far. I would still find a local hunter & get dogs from him if he is successful.

Tom David's Gumbo dog. He is the bottom dog.

[Georgia-Hawgs]

I've never been fond of the brindle color. But god dang you cant beat the looks of a well built plot hound.  Cajun you have some nice ones for sure sir !!!

[liefalwepon]

Never been lion hunting in my life but I have gotten to know a few real good lion hunters and its been explained to me much like hog hunting in VERY THIN hog country.   I compared it to this because they basically use two different styles depending on personal preference.    Some run SUPER cold nosed dogs that grub and grind on the slightest of scent (often times days old) and others prefer the more moderate nosed dogs that move any track the have the ability to smell at a good pace and have a vety high "jump" precentage.   If a guys likes spending hours upon hours watching dogs walk and grub on a day+ old track with the ultimate reward being seeing their dogs jump that horrific track then I would contact folks that hunt that style and have success.     The other style misses the SUPER cold tracks and only open on the tracks they can move and jump.   Now its obvious the more moderately nosed dogs will often need to be hunted ovee more country but in a course of a yers time and time lost working tracks all day with no jump the laws of averages work it all out about even.   Its been explained to me bt a very successful lion hunter that both styles work and produce evenly but its just whether you'd rather spend that day working a low precentage track or riding looking for a slam dunk.

If I was starting out lion hunting I would ask myself what intetest me more and search out that style of hunter and go from their.    Good luck

thats good advice, thanks oconee!!! Im going to take my time figuring it out. I need to weed through these young hog dogs I have to make room in my yard before I get a lion dog. Running cats is illegal in my state but nevada and AZ are close enough to have some fun. I dont want to miss out on the opportunity to run game anymore, now we cant even run bears in Ca, and Im not getting any younger. Its illegal to even posses lion parts like a skull or hide in Ca, Ill probably just run em for fun and not kill to many
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgkMjxB9RtA&list=LLyWht2a1t68Oz4NkJFAyW2Q&index=47

[joshg223]

Never been lion hunting in my life but I have gotten to know a few real good lion hunters and its been explained to me much like hog hunting in VERY THIN hog country.   I compared it to this because they basically use two different styles depending on personal preference.    Some run SUPER cold nosed dogs that grub and grind on the slightest of scent (often times days old) and others prefer the more moderate nosed dogs that move any track the have the ability to smell at a good pace and have a vety high "jump" precentage.   If a guys likes spending hours upon hours watching dogs walk and grub on a day+ old track with the ultimate reward being seeing their dogs jump that horrific track then I would contact folks that hunt that style and have success.     The other style misses the SUPER cold tracks and only open on the tracks they can move and jump.   Now its obvious the more moderately nosed dogs will often need to be hunted ovee more country but in a course of a yers time and time lost working tracks all day with no jump the laws of averages work it all out about even.   Its been explained to me bt a very successful lion hunter that both styles work and produce evenly but its just whether you'd rather spend that day working a low precentage track or riding looking for a slam dunk.

If I was starting out lion hunting I would ask myself what intetest me more and search out that style of hunter and go from their.    Good luck

This right here.  The only thing I would add is the fellows that prefer med nosed dogs like to have speed usually adding running blooded dogs in their pack. Especially the guys that also run bobcats.

[Slim9797]

I've never been fond of the brindle color. But god dang you cant beat the looks of a well built plot hound.  Cajun you have some nice ones for sure sir !!!

you don't like brindle??!?!?

[liefalwepon]

I've never been fond of the brindle color. But god dang you cant beat the looks of a well built plot hound.  Cajun you have some nice ones for sure sir !!!

you don't like brindle??!?!?

I was thinking the same thing slim........ oh well to each their own

[Slim9797]

Color don't catch hogs that's for sure

[Georgia-Hawgs]

I dont know why. I aint racist against it by no means. It aint like I wouldn't hunt a brindle dog....I just like a solid color over a brindle color.  But I have seen some jam up brindle dogs. ( plots and others).. and as I stated I sure do like the looks of a plot hound. Merry Christmas yall. 

[dodo1987]

I always had both in my pack really cold nosed dogs mixed in with the moderately cold nosed hounds worked good for me if I needed more pressure I dropped faster dogs with most of faster dogs had a touch  of grayhound in them  worked for me never had a chance to run bobcats but would like to