Lets talk about Hog management.........for those that don't kill em all

[liefalwepon]

I have a half Duroc half hamp boar, every sow I catch that is open spends 2-3 weeks in the pen with him before they go! It's helped the look,the size and all that damn RUNNING! I've been using him for 4 years had a spotted Poland China I used before him, it's working for me might be something you fellas could try

That's cool, I've thought about doing that


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[liefalwepon]

Same things happening out where I hunt with the Russian blood, more thin long legged, long snout and not much fat on them, I prefer the other stalky hogs we used to have, most are halfway in between. I've been wanting to Barr all the Russians. It would be iffy to release the ones I've been catching, even when I get there fast, the ears are really tattered. I might need to start running bay dogs. It's so steep here that if you get a hog that's keeps breaking it can really wear you down, there's no roads either. Maybe I'll set up a hog trap and Barr em


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[LTcaughthog]

Manage the hell out of your spots, get em ready for tournaments and win those buckles n cash!!

[justincorbell]

I'm reading this and wondering why if yall want a more domesticated looking and acting feral pig to catch, why yall don't just buy a hand full of domestic sows and run them loose where you hunt.  That would by far be the quickest, simplest, and easiest way to accomplish what I believe yall are wanting to get back to.
   

To be honest that would be the easiest way to do it BUT we arent tryin to introduce even more hogs, we just want to manage the ones we got.

[justincorbell]

I'm trying to find out where this overwhelming population of hogs is that everyone is talking about...


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Believe me there are PLENTY in southeast Texas, ya just gotta find the places that haven't been run on and outlawed nonstop for years. But I can assure you that they are around, more that one would think. I can go 10 minutes from my house in ANY direction and see hogs and I don't live but 15 miles outside beaumont.

[justincorbell]

Slim I understand that and I have hunted places where I had the same orders BUT that is for a different thread. THIS thread is for the folks that luckily do not have to follow those orders.

wasn't trying to disagree with what your doing. I wish I could manage the population in a place like you talk about. It's no fun hunting places 3 times, catching a couple pigs and then having to wait 2 months for them to come back in there.


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Didn't mean that to sound rude Slim9797. I know the feelin.

[justincorbell]

We try to manage them all we Barr every boar. I have no preference on what they look like. Only kill the barrs when we want one to eat. Kill a sow if she is chewed up.
Their is a reason why you don't see the old piney wood rooters like it used to be. They are easiest caught.
 Besides easy hogs don't make good dogs.

            Hillbilly, what you are saying is correct however we are not trying to necessarily make em easier to catch as we honestly don't have an issue catching them now, we simply want to preserve the old blooded hogs of the past for the future.........its a hobby for us as none of us are trying to make any money by catching/selling these hogs.  This is just something to do to take up our spare time because we enjoy it.

[justincorbell]

Thanks for the post and spreading your experience. I like running one dog at a ranch I hunt. It works good.


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I agree one the 1 dog out. So far this year we have been dropping one grown dog and one puppy at a time. Once we have a bay, one of us will slide in and we go from there regarding dropping more dogs to catch the hog depending on what we feel we need. I enjoy hunting 1 grown dog at a time, lets you learn alot more about each dog and what makes them tick.

[Georgia-Hawgs]

I've got a young male BMC that we've been running alone.  He's about 14 months old. And hes been impressing me since he was a pup. He got bayed solid twice the other day by his self.   Wasn't able to seal the deal though.  I think the hog swam the river and he didn't quite figure it out. He's loved to use his nose his whole life. I have to kill or remove hogs where I hunt.  But this is an interesting topic.  On a side note we had 6 hogs escape about a month ago. 3 were in the 50 pound range and 3 were little piglets.  All were domestic hogs, spot and mulefoot crosses. We have a few wild hogs here. I was pissed that they got loose, but now im kinda excited that they'll go feral and also breed with these wild ones.

[T-Bob Parker]

Justin, I garuntee you know where I stand on this topic, but seeing as how my whole county is "kill em" country, I just stay tight lipped these days.
if I were managing hogs... id do exactly like your talking about plus running feral sows thru a Domestic Boar pen, because domestic sows will die off too quick when put out.

[T-Bob Parker]

hey, also, something else to try. let your dogs bay for a good long while, throw some corn or feed and call them dogs off. 

[Slim9797]

I've got a young male BMC that we've been running alone.  He's about 14 months old. And hes been impressing me since he was a pup. He got bayed solid twice the other day by his self.   Wasn't able to seal the deal though.  I think the hog swam the river and he didn't quite figure it out. He's loved to use his nose his whole life. I have to kill or remove hogs where I hunt.  But this is an interesting topic.  On a side note we had 6 hogs escape about a month ago. 3 were in the 50 pound range and 3 were little piglets.  All were domestic hogs, spot and mulefoot crosses. We have a few wild hogs here. I was pissed that they got loose, but now im kinda excited that they'll go feral and also breed with these wild ones.

them hogs you had in that hot wired pasture?!?


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[Georgia-Hawgs]

3 of them were slim. We bought some hogs from a guy that was full of crap. It was one of those to good to be true deals. Our hogs that we put in there from the beginning have stayed put. We bought 6 hogs from a guy who said the big ones which he said were 150 pounds were electric fence trained.  They all got out that night. And the other 3 (piglets) was my fault. I rigged up a small pen in a hurry and they all got out 2 days later. Haha. The ones he said were 150 pounds were probably 50 or 60 pounds tops. He delivered them for free and my wife was all excited about it or I would have told that guy to take em back home.  But oh well....you cant will all the time.

[Cajun]

We kind of manage them the opposite way. We want the russians & we take out or barr any off colored hogs or Piney Wood Rooter type hogs. The Russians like said are a wilder hog, but there are a lot of ferals that can run like a bat out of hell. It just boils down to what you want. If you want bigger blockier hogs, that is your preference & nothing wrong with that. To me, the old time Piney woods rooter was reverting back to a Russian hog. They had a extremely long snout & were smaller in the hindquarters. They could be any color but did not have the heavy wool undercoats or reddish brown hair that the Russians have.

[7Mhunter]

^^ My opinion of an old school hog around a here is one that's long nosed long bodied like a rooter hog. Just made sausage out of a sow that fit the description of an old school rooter hog. But if Satan had a twin it would have been her. She would meet you or the dogs at the trailer gate. You see more color now then you used to. But can't beat a pretty spotted hog!


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[msriverrat]

How do you tell the sows are in heat when you catch them?

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[justincorbell]

We kind of manage them the opposite way. We want the russians & we take out or barr any off colored hogs or Piney Wood Rooter type hogs. The Russians like said are a wilder hog, but there are a lot of ferals that can run like a bat out of hell. It just boils down to what you want. If you want bigger blockier hogs, that is your preference & nothing wrong with that. To me, the old time Piney woods rooter was reverting back to a Russian hog. They had a extremely long snout & were smaller in the hindquarters. They could be any color but did not have the heavy wool undercoats or reddish brown hair that the Russians have.

Perfect example of different strokes for different folks! For the sake of conversation, if you don't mind I would like to hear why ya'll prefer keeping the russian type hog as opposed to the old school rooter type hog. I prefer the rooter type hog simply because that is the type hog I grew up seeing and hunting from a young age. Like I said, I didn't get into running dogs until 05/06 but I gave them hogs hell with my 30 30 when I was younger walking the woods and wearin them out every chance I got (guess im partially to blame for the downfall of rooters in our woods). We aren't doing it simply "because the russian type hogs run" although some have the tendency to run I believe that regardless of a particular feral hogs genetics some just flat out prefer to run while others prefer to sit down and bay. We simply like the rooter type hog so that is what we are trying to improve as opposed to the newer outside influenced type hog.

[warrent423]

Back home in Florida, we always kept blooded hogs mixed in with our Rooters. Although we have caught and sold many hogs through out our existence, we have always been about fresh pork. I still honored "marks" right up until the time I left 10 years ago. My family down there still does to this day. Here in SE Tennessee there is a lot of Russian influence in these hogs. Some of the Old Timers I have become friends with introduced some Poland and China blood years ago and I have caught a few colored hogs over the years. The current laws regarding feral hogs in this state are absolutely ridiculous at the present time. Although I occasionally fed out a few in my pen here at the house, periodic "visits" from the local wardens make it difficult, to say the least.

[warrent423]

"feed out"

[Boss Hoggin Outlaw]

I remember when it used to be good hogs. They never ran and would sit up and bay. When I was about knee high my uncle uncle sent a bulldog, bulldog caught the hog which ended up being a Barr @ 345lbs. He could flip the hog by himself and there Damn sure want any cell phones I those days, so he pulled the bulldog off, left the hog with the dogs still baying and went picked up my dad, went back to where he left the dogs which was about an hour later, and they were still baying in the same location. Nowadays that number 2 wouldn't happen in 100 years. I guess my point is, people change from decade to decade. Therefore wildlife will change from decade to decade, BUT I think there is a way to reintroduce good baying hogs in an area and it all starts with management. Take out the small framed long legged hogs and introduce more domesticated hogs to the woods. I'm not talking 100%, I mean bread a few I pens and gradually turn em loose. After all, that IS the reason we have hogs here today... Pretty much go back  to what started everything ( meaning domesticated hogs escaping turning feral, which led to big framed short legged hogs) along with some culling, and eventually you will be satisfied with what the outcome is...

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