Lets talk about Hog management.........for those that don't kill em all

[Boss Hoggin Outlaw]

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[Cajun]

We kind of manage them the opposite way. We want the russians & we take out or barr any off colored hogs or Piney Wood Rooter type hogs. The Russians like said are a wilder hog, but there are a lot of ferals that can run like a bat out of hell. It just boils down to what you want. If you want bigger blockier hogs, that is your preference & nothing wrong with that. To me, the old time Piney woods rooter was reverting back to a Russian hog. They had a extremely long snout & were smaller in the hindquarters. They could be any color but did not have the heavy wool undercoats or reddish brown hair that the Russians have.

Perfect example of different strokes for different folks! For the sake of conversation, if you don't mind I would like to hear why ya'll prefer keeping the russian type hog as opposed to the old school rooter type hog. I prefer the rooter type hog simply because that is the type hog I grew up seeing and hunting from a young age. Like I said, I didn't get into running dogs until 05/06 but I gave them hogs hell with my 30 30 when I was younger walking the woods and wearin them out every chance I got (guess im partially to blame for the downfall of rooters in our woods). We aren't doing it simply "because the russian type hogs run" although some have the tendency to run I believe that regardless of a particular feral hogs genetics some just flat out prefer to run while others prefer to sit down and bay. We simply like the rooter type hog so that is what we are trying to improve as opposed to the newer outside influenced type hog.

Justin, It is just like you say, a personal preference. I love catching any hogs, Russian or Feral but just like the Russians better. I don't need the pork to eat, I just enjoy the dogs work & it seems like they have to put a lot more effort in bring a Russian hog to bay once he breaks. When they first were introduced to our part of the country, We never knew a hog could run like that. Back then, like said above the hogs bayed up very easy. Of course the woods were different too. Mostly open woods with virgin timber on it & very few hog hunters. A big Russian boar is just a prehistoric looking hog & we went to a lot of effort to make sure they made it.

[justincorbell]

10 4  cajun, thanks for the response.

[T-Bob Parker]

This passage from "Backwoodsmen" by Thad Sitton is the motivation behind a recent project of mine. Thought you may enjoy.

[justincorbell]

Im gonna have to get a copy of that one Terry. Appreciate the post bud.

[jdt]

xs 2 , i'll bet avy joe never needed a bulldog either .

thats the difference in using dogs for a living and using dogs for sport , like the old man was saying .

nothing wrong with either but if the sport hunters understood how the  the old timers did it and what made their dogs successfull they would know how to have/breed better dogs imo .

[T-Bob Parker]

You know John, I've read that book cover to cover three times and haven't seen no mention of no bulldogs! 

I'm working on this years crop of youngsters. I've never "trained" my cur dogs to do nothing, just hauled them and let genetics do its job, but this year I have been baying with them and scooting in on em to hiss them in or back them up. I'm planning a little something, may not work, but I'm having more fun than usual

[jdt]

i can smell what your cookin t-bob , keep me posted .

[Goose87]

Beside good dog work my second favorite thing about hog hunting is the management aspect, if a sow bays easy or is springing with pigs then she is off limits to kill, just about every boar we catch is cut and turned back loose, depending on the area, 90% of the places i hunt I can do as I please with the hogs, I've crossed several with domestic blood and kicked out just because I like to catch hogs with some color, me myself I prefer a running hog, my reason behind it is for several years me and an old hunting partner "built" the population up in our area with easy baying hogs, I was the one footing most of the bill for everything, well that sorry POS decided he wanted to do a 180 with his life and lost everything he had, including good job, good wife, and good friends, well he called in a bunch of knuckle heads and they went in and caught and killed about 40 head in a month or two, now to some that may not sound like a lot but if you live in a area where there isn't a lot of hogs that a detrimental blow, so after that episode I got permission to hunt everything around. Now the hogs are managed but not just any numb nuts is going to be able to bring in some 1st rate culls and catch them, in one particular place I hunt in about 6 hunts we pulled 4 mountable trophies out of there this year, 3 being big Barrs and one was a fine boar, by cutting every boar caught there and turning the sows back out it seems like everytime I go there we catch hogs. For the ones who say they have to kill everything they catch or they will be shunned, if you would just keep your mouth shut and not go around bragging to everybody and beating your chest that you caught a hog then people wouldn't know your business, I have a FB account and vowed a while back to quit posting pictures of every hog I caught, now it has to be a good'en, some good dog work that can be bragged on, or it involves my son or any kids in our hunting party. If you don't need the meat then why not leave it on its feet, one thing me or anybody i hunt with never has to worry about is a place to go hunting, we keep them managed to a point where everybody is happy, yes we do have several places we hunt that we can kill everything we catch and still don't put a hurting on the numbers, that's the places we go to fill our freezers or to get a friend a hog. The reason hogs are like they are is because of bad management involved.