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« on: February 14, 2016, 08:06:16 pm » |
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Any body hunt any bird bull crosses I've got some friends that do and they're sure enough hog dogs. Any body else run them?
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Slim9797
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2016, 08:25:40 pm » |
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Interested in this. I have a pup he's my variation of a bird bull. He's turning on good at 4 months. Already been on a hog in the big woods
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boarboy
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2016, 08:37:01 pm » |
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I got a little game bred pit that will sure enough hunt lol I was thinking about mixing me up some bird bull cross lol
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Slim9797
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2016, 08:42:54 pm » |
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Yeah. The pup I have is 1/4 cur 1/4 setter 1/2 pit. He's gonna be rough rough for sure and might have a decent cast to him. I got him jacked up by a hog the other day so I'm letting him relax for a good while before I let him at another hog
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boarboy
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2016, 08:48:23 pm » |
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Hopefully it don't mess him up being so young
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2016, 09:07:08 pm » |
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Yeah that's what I'm worried about. He's already been on about an 80 on sow on a real deal hunt, Did awesome. Well I took him again and bayed a big sow. Bulldog hit and couldn't find the ear. Pup hit with him and found his mark but she was too much for him. He made the race for a little and then came back. His demeanor hasn't changed so hopefully a little confidence boost of anything and he'll be firing off like he has been
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scswamphunter
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2016, 09:53:54 pm » |
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I'm just back into it but when I had my pack about 5 years ago I really liked my bird/bull crosses even tho they were pretty gritty not much on the bay side at all mainly straight catch but they had really good nose and could strike and find there own hog . If you have a good game bred pit find you a decent gsp and make the cross rasie the litter and keep the best ones. I'd think you like the cross
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TheRednose
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2016, 11:05:04 pm » |
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This is the cross I am hoping to try in the near future.
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boarboy
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2016, 05:48:47 am » |
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I'm thinking I wanna try and get about 1/4 pit and 3/4 bird dog. Not necessarily half and half. So far I've been told to use English pointers and gsp idk which one to go with
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2016, 07:32:25 am » |
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I have some pups in the oven that are gonna be 1/4cat 1/4pit 1/2gsp have really high hopes for these mom and dad are both pretty good dogs hoping to get a lil more baythan half and half mix and maybe they have lil longer life expectancy
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them trashy dogs done bayed another hog!!!
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boarboy
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2016, 11:01:11 am » |
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I don't mind a catchy dog as long as they're smart about it. Just need to find a decent bird dog to breed to my bull dog when she comes in. She's a little chinamen dog I turned her loose the other night she was huntin out 500 yards full blood American pit bull
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TheRednose
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2016, 12:13:22 pm » |
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I'm thinking I wanna try and get about 1/4 pit and 3/4 bird dog. Not necessarily half and half. So far I've been told to use English pointers and gsp idk which one to go with
Just a question, but why would you only want a 1/4 bulldog? What is that going to do for you? Why not just go with a full GSP or EP? To me a 1/4 bulldog would just be a recipe to get the dog killed or if not just be a bay buster. But I am a green horn so its an honest question as I am just trying to learn. I want 1/2 because I want them to catch too, but if I didn't want them to catch I would just go with a pure one as I have seen a couple of pure GSP's that burn it up, I mean they get out and go! I dream about getting one like the female I had seen. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2016, 12:15:30 pm » |
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After a discussion with a good dogman off of here I believe what he saying is
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2016, 12:23:48 pm » |
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Ignore above post.
With my bird bull pup I'm not hoping for catchy! It's actually exactly what I don't want. I want him to be rough as hell. I want him to be so hard all over a runners ass that the pig feels he has no choice but to turn around and whoop this dogs ass. And then when the pig spins I want him to back up and hammer away. Yes I know we wish that was every dog we own, or atleast I do. But I feel a bird bull if bred right is set up to do just that.
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boarboy
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2016, 02:01:15 pm » |
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Only a 1/4 they would be ballzy but not stupid. Half and half you would have a running catch dog and that's not a bad thing but that's how you get your number 2 killed. Catchy dogs gotta be smart
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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2016, 07:01:18 pm » |
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Most of the bird\bulls I have seen tended to be catchy.
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boarboy
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2016, 08:01:47 pm » |
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Don't mind catchy just don't want one run in out 3/4 of a mile and catching a big bad boar hog by itself if there's a few of them it won't be so bad
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cornbro
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2016, 08:10:25 pm » |
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Most I have seen was pretty rough even alone.
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2016, 08:23:51 pm » |
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Ignore above post.
It's actually exactly what I don't want. I want him to be rough as hell. I want him to be so hard all over a runners ass that the pig feels he has no choice but to turn around and whoop this dogs ass. And then when the pig spins I want him to back up and hammer away. Yes I know we wish that was every dog we own, or atleast I do.
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this is the type of dog I hope to breed...they can catch as well...but be smart enough to back and bay until I get there if needed...then catch or back off depending on my command once I show up... I have seen more than a few 1/2 bulldogs hunt like a cur and range out far and they did not have a long life span...they had the hard hunt and grit of a good mt cur with the bulldog catch on top of that...the long range hunt and the bull dog catch worked against them... I am looking for that fine line in a pack of dogs... |
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TheRednose
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2016, 01:58:45 pm » |
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Most I have seen was pretty rough even alone.
Most of the bird\bulls I have seen tended to be catchy.
Yeah I thought that was the point of breeding in a bulldog that is straight catch to get a rougher dog that would still get out some and hunt. That is definitely what I want, a short to medium range rough rough dog. I want to run a couple at a time. I have talked to other people on a georgia board and that is what made me originally want some bird n bull's. That's kinda how those couple of individuals explained to me and I really like the sound of it. I see what boarboy is saying, and I get his point though. My meaning of rough it sounds like is different than others meaning of rough. Rough or grit to me means pulling hair, or putting teeth in them. Straight catch meaning they catch immediately no matter what period, and really rough meaning they will catch most hogs but not suicidal on a big one, which keeps them from being called straight catch. To me the rougher they are the more they want to try and catch. That is just how I thought about it. So when people say rough but don't want a catchy dog that is what threw me off is all. Does anybody on here have any pic's of their bird n bull's I would like to see them if you do. |
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