bigo
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« on: February 15, 2016, 11:43:11 am » |
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After health issues forced me to let all my dogs go, I decided to get one to keep around the house. BigBen was kind enough to let me have a pup out of a nice female I let him have and a half brother to her. I raised him in the house and he did well until he got around 10 or 11 months old. He got to where I couldn't let him out to use the bathroom without him trying to eat anyone near my property. I had to put him in a pen. Last week, I sent him to Jeff Ross to hunt for me a couple of months to see what he was made of. Cooper was 2 years old and had seen two pigs here at the house about a year apart. Jeff called yesterday to give me a report. He said he couldn't get him out of the box when he got home and had to wait until the next morning to get him out. After a few days, Jeff was getting along good with him, so he took him out with him to turn three boar hogs loose on a lease. He turned the hogs out one at a time, then went back to another truck and let Cooper out. He took each track and bayed all three hogs and they were all sitting down when they got to the bay. The last hog was given a 30 minute head start. I would have to have one like this come along when I can't hunt anymore because they are hard to come by.
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The older I get, the better I was. If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain
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Goose87
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2016, 11:53:34 am » |
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In a way I'm going to say I hate to hear that but then again at least you can get the satisfaction of knowing that if it weren't for you then a dog of that caliber wouldn't be around.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 12:16:54 pm » |
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I feel similar to Goose. Sucks you can't be the one hunting him, but there has got to be a little satisfaction to know that he was produced out of your blood. That in itself is a great accomplishment and something to be proud of in my book.
Congrats on having a major hand in producing another real hog dog sir, and you take care.
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The Old Man
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 08:49:29 pm » |
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Bob, what dogs are Cooper out of?
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Reuben
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 08:57:23 pm » |
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there aren't many dogs that can keep a boar hog sitting down...you must be proud...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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bigo
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 09:36:43 pm » |
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Clue, Cooper is by a Cowboy/Roxie male and out of Lisa, a Cowboy/Sarah female. I give all the credit to your Cowboy dog. Too bad he died young. I would line breed him as much as the dogs could stand. I am proud of him but I was blown away by that performance. I thought he might be special by the way he acted around here but I didn't see that coming. By May, I plan to have a five foot horse wire fence around the whole place so he can come and go as he pleases around here.
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The older I get, the better I was. If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain
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The Old Man
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 09:48:36 pm » |
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I have a female I need to bring to him sometime this year if it'd be okay, that's why I was asking what he was out of. I thought that was what he is but wasn't sure. Thanks
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The Old Man
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 09:52:03 pm » |
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Sounds like that if they will hunt him by himself he'll do a good job, but might not make the trip too many times with another dog or two.
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bigo
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2016, 12:56:36 pm » |
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You will be more than welcome to breed to him anytime.
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The older I get, the better I was. If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2016, 01:30:21 pm » |
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Sounds like that if they will hunt him by himself he'll do a good job, but might not make the trip too many times with another dog or two.
Mr Anderson, in your experience, will 2 or more of this blood worked together, catch and hold rank stock, if allowed. I ask this not to intentionally cause a "wreck", but to know if they could be paired accordingly to catch hogs and cattle. These sound like the type of cur dogs we are used to working with in South/Central Florida. Rough enough to stop, but enough sense and finesse to come off and bay.
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Catchin hogs cracker style
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The Old Man
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2016, 02:08:32 pm » |
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There is quite a bit of variance in how rough these dogs are, some have almost no bite some are what I'd call too rough, most are in the middle some where and really want stock to stand and work hard to make that happen. Rarely will two of these dogs catch and hold. Generally penning cattle I can gather a set and not put a tooth in a cow "unless something runs off" then if it doesn't come right back I go with them because they will catch it over there somewhere and if there are 3 or 4 on the ground they are not gonna back up and bark. I use shock collars on the young dogs and if one snatches and grabs around a bunch that are not running off I let them know that is a no no. On hogs the general behavior is they will bay a hog that will stand unless you have too many loose "too many depending on the individuals" if there are too many on the ground they will catch, There is a small percentage of them that are pretty catchy with or without help. Quite a few of these dogs have a pretty good nose and lots of bottom, and will get out of the country on you in that sort of circumstance. From what I know about most of the Florida dogs they are typically rougher or more catchy with fewer dogs loose than this bunch of dogs. These dogs are a little different style with lots of lead in them, and less circle than the Florida dogs. That's about the best I can do to explain.
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warrent423
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2016, 06:52:56 pm » |
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Thank you sir for the info. Definitely a fine line when it comes to roughness in cur dogs. We've always been of the mindset that if you can put a solid handle on a rough dog or set of dogs, you can catch and pen almost anything.
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Catchin hogs cracker style
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Duck Creek
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2016, 01:20:56 pm » |
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Bigo here are a few pics of my pup out of same litter and their daddy. My litter mate gyp was killed 2 weeks ago chasing a boar across the highway which was a huge loss because she burning up the woods. The male I have I call Mick and like your pup he has shown unbelievable potential and been burning the woods down from the get go. Has been striking hogs since his 3rd hunt and rolls out on command. Was a great cross in my opinion and just wished we could make it again.
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Duck Creek
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2016, 01:28:07 pm » |
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Pics didn't work, i'll try again
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Duck Creek
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2016, 01:46:08 pm » |
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Mic is standing, Ode is laying down closest to pic.
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Duck Creek
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2016, 01:49:48 pm » |
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Mick has orange coller on in this pic. Ode is in front of him. This pic was last weekend on the river. Mick struck the hog and pushed him back to us.
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2016, 01:51:10 pm » |
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Boar prolly 190lbs
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bigo
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2016, 05:49:27 pm » |
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The first time we bred Lisa was to a dog of Ben Jordans. All of those pups were a disappointment except the one Ben got for the stud fee. He said it was one of the best young dogs he ever had. This litter seems to be a great cross as all the ones I've heard about are stem winders. Too bad Big Ben lost Lisa.
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The older I get, the better I was. If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain
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BIG BEN
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2016, 05:55:37 am » |
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From the very few updates I've gotten that cross has worked very good. Bigo I wouldn't expect much less from cooper he's got the brains and ability to be a one of those types that don't come along too often. I hoped to make the cross again with ginger if odie is up to it, but I believe lisa was the better pup producer. My two are set back pretty far due to me dealing with personal issues this last year and lack of hunting spots so I can't compare mine to anyone else's at the moment.
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hunt em hard, give em no excuses, and cull harder!!!!! "Rather have a sister in a whore house than spots on a dog" "Pretty is as pretty does"- BigO
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bigo
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2016, 09:30:57 am » |
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Ben, I can't do much, but I'll help you any way I can.
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The older I get, the better I was. If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principle difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain
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