Breeding Better Dogs 101...

[justincorbell]

You just love talkin chit dont you

[Reuben]

You just love talkin chit dont you

I was starting to think it was only me who saw it... 

[oconee]

The funny thing about these sites is how small of a world it actually is.  You see everytime I get into a debate on here I get countless PM's about the person I'm debating with.  When me and you (Black Sheep) went around a few months ago folks came out of the wood works to tell me about hunts with your junky "finder holders."   Now I can't place any value on hearsay but I will say it wasn't just a few folks that felt the need to tell me about you and your dogs, it was several!  Now here me and THD are going around and guess what..........    yep not to many impressed with him either.    I don't see why anyone would lie about past experiences with you or him but I figure were there is smoke there has to be a little flame.

Now having said that, tell us all how many folks that ACTUALLY hunted with me and my dogs have PM'ed you and ran me down?  No need to identify, just tell me how many.    

[Judge peel]

That's some funny stuff


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[buddylee]

Oconee, your exactly the kinda guy I was referring to thats knows everything and doesn't listen. I honestly wish there were more folks like u. Be a lot more hogs for me to catch

[TexasHogDogs]

Haaaaaaaaaaa Well my phone has rung off the wall itself imagine that.  Every body Says your all mouth and no ass.  You ain't done number 2 and most likely never will.  I ask you to put up what u have bred worth its salt and u come back with more mouth BS.  There and hole in the butt on every board and u tend to fit the bill.   You put up one Plott dog and I hope that ain't you squaring behind him be cause of it is I got dogs older than you.

By the love the shoes Lmao maybe you need to puttem on that old Plott dog so he can run as fast as you mouth.  

[WayOutWest]

Y'all are turnin into some real internet warriors! Take a breath and let it go!

[oconee]

Jimmie there are very few on this site that HAVE ACTUALLY hunted with me and my dogs.   Now if any of them called you, I can GUARANTEE you they can't say I'm feeding junk.  Now tell me how many have actually hunted with me and can say I feed turds?   Just a number and don't lie!  How many big boy?    And yes that is me, stop making fun of my shoes they are in style.

Buddylee just because I speak my mind when I see BS posts is no reflection of the amount of hogs I leave behind me in the woods.   I do not think I know it all but when I see what I think is BS I will call a feller out.  

[TexasHogDogs]

They not talking about your dogs ain't no body seen any they talking about your mouth.   Man you carry number 2 to the extreme where I come from that number 2 don't work . Am gonna leave it at this  I've said it a couple times already and should have let you just run your head. Joel is right its turned into a internet keyboard fight.  I live in Cameron Tx you get this way just ask anybody  where Iive they will point you in the right direction come by we will hash it out.

[justincorbell]

Where's Barlow? This thread is right in his wheelhouse...

[oconee]

Well I can't deny I run my mouth.  Glad you cleared that up about my dogs for everyone.  By the way the folks that contacted me were DEFINITELY talking about your dogs.   So I guess now you gonna beat me up?  Ha ha ha.    You are a work of art.  Mental toughness is illusive around here.      Toughen up big boy, my words aren't gonna hurt you.

[buddylee]

He's just a young cocky know it all. He'll figure it out one day.

[Slim9797]

I'm not riled up, just made a comment and it was more of a joke. End of the day I know some good scatterbred dogs and I got a line bred cow dog that ain't worth a damn. I'm just here to read


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[Semmes]

I own my part in the disentigration of this whole thread into what it became...

I let my panties get in a wad because I felt Reuben was running down what Larry Parker said at a point. I live in la. Know alot folks with Parker's, even yards of them, hunted with some and respect Larry for what he has done. I don't own a full Parker dog, and ive met larry and im pretty sure he dont need or want any body dpeaking for him. That was my bad. But I think of all the folks on this thread he has at least accomplished as much if not more than any other...

Looking back, even previous to the jousting back and fourth, it may or may not have been Reuben's intent from his comments.

But I just saw some inconsistencies in his comments from the past and felt a bit put off by the tone, warranted or not, and dove in.

I like a good debate, and once in im all in lol, and nothing better to talk than dogs as far as I'm concerned. Hell we all feed, doctor, hunt, breed, argue about and then watch these flea bags die one way or another. While they just sit in a kennel, on a chain, in the yard or on the couch oblivious to it all. As long as they get fed and worked and petted occasionally they are cool.

We can all have differences. We can all have our specific standards. We can all do what ever the heck we want with our property.

Ideas and philosophies change and have to as folks grow and learn. Everybody on this threads have evolved over time and experience. When called out to defend or explain the what and why, which is just human nature, as long as it is kept in context it's all good and healthy.

We all learn from each other's experience, hell me more than most i suppose, and how the old saying go those who don't learn from the mistakes of humankind are doomed to repeat them? Sumthin like that anyhow...

But lets not all take this too personal and run down each other to far and fir godsake talks bout each others chaps(kids)...

It's just bunch damn dogs in the end..

We are all on the same team and on the same side if the fight. Dog men and women. Hell we could prob all kill more hogs cheaper Sitn in a stand w night vision and a rifle like alot do but we don't think that is fun.

I don't wanna sound to preachy. I know I do...I'm as guilty as the next man for calling names on this board and others and takin number 2 to a personal level.
Again sumtimes human nature is a mutha.

I was texting with a good bud from this board today about this thread. This is a copy and paste of what I wrote....I stick by it.

We all are....hehehehe
Fukin dogs make ya stupid...
Imagine grown folks with high pressure jobs and kids and bills and all... Fighting over dogs and a friggin hobby.
Guess that's part of what keeps us going.
Least it's a time honored thing that our ancestors prob did as well.
We could be on some friggin board bitching about what sex we and our kids identify as.
I like everybody on there lol

[Semmes]

.....sorry Mike, that paste had a f-bomb in it, didn't mean to break the rule of 'your' forum...

[Goose87]

Thanks to a link rednose posted a while back I've spent a many a nights on this website, figured this would go good in this debate and hopefully get it back on track, I've enjoyed the majority of what's been posted thus far...


http://www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/the-myth-of-hybrid-vigor-in-dogsis-a-myth

[Goose87]

http://www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/using-inbreeding-to-manage-to-inbreeding

[Reuben]

semmes...I was wondering why you were calling me out and now I see what you were thinking...  All I said about Larry was that I remember when he first wrote that he was going to breed a line of dogs many years ago...maybe I said more than that but I don't think so...maybe I should of continued and said...he said it and made it happen...and I have heard and read good things about his dogs...and as I mentioned I am considering getting a top pup from him one day...

now if I said something else about Larry's dogs and it sounded negative please point it out...

[TheRednose]

Hey Goose, I didn't see either of those articles so thanks for posting. That second one seems to be explaining that method I was telling you about that one of my friends out here on the west coast does with his dogs to prolong having to outcross.

[alphabravo]

I own my part in the disentigration of this whole thread into what it became...

I let my panties get in a wad because I felt Reuben was running down what Larry Parker said at a point. I live in la. Know alot folks with Parker's, even yards of them, hunted with some and respect Larry for what he has done. I don't own a full Parker dog, and ive met larry and im pretty sure he dont need or want any body dpeaking for him. That was my bad. But I think of all the folks on this thread he has at least accomplished as much if not more than any other...

Looking back, even previous to the jousting back and fourth, it may or may not have been Reuben's intent from his comments.

But I just saw some inconsistencies in his comments from the past and felt a bit put off by the tone, warranted or not, and dove in.

I like a good debate, and once in im all in lol, and nothing better to talk than dogs as far as I'm concerned. Hell we all feed, doctor, hunt, breed, argue about and then watch these flea bags die one way or another. While they just sit in a kennel, on a chain, in the yard or on the couch oblivious to it all. As long as they get fed and worked and petted occasionally they are cool.

We can all have differences. We can all have our specific standards. We can all do what ever the heck we want with our property.

Ideas and philosophies change and have to as folks grow and learn. Everybody on this threads have evolved over time and experience. When called out to defend or explain the what and why, which is just human nature, as long as it is kept in context it's all good and healthy.

We all learn from each other's experience, hell me more than most i suppose, and how the old saying go those who don't learn from the mistakes of humankind are doomed to repeat them? Sumthin like that anyhow...

But lets not all take this too personal and run down each other to far and fir godsake talks bout each others chaps(kids)...

It's just bunch damn dogs in the end..

We are all on the same team and on the same side if the fight. Dog men and women. Hell we could prob all kill more hogs cheaper Sitn in a stand w night vision and a rifle like alot do but we don't think that is fun.

I don't wanna sound to preachy. I know I do...I'm as guilty as the next man for calling names on this board and others and takin number 2 to a personal level.
Again sumtimes human nature is a mutha.

I was texting with a good bud from this board today about this thread. This is a copy and paste of what I wrote....I stick by it.

We all are....hehehehe
Fukin dogs make ya stupid...
Imagine grown folks with high pressure jobs and kids and bills and all... Fighting over dogs and a friggin hobby.
Guess that's part of what keeps us going.
Least it's a time honored thing that our ancestors prob did as well.
We could be on some friggin board bitching about what sex we and our kids identify as.
I like everybody on there lol

X2!!  I personally would rather shoot hogs. Keeps my good dogs from getting ripped up. I think hog dogging is interesting. that's why I'm here. I use bulldogs for protection moreso than hunting. But the basis for a good protection dog can be found in a hog dog: Good temperament, a hard bite and athleticism.