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I hear ya on that however 99.999% of the time if i shoot i want my dogs coming back to me. I rarely ever shoot anyhow but if i do i want them coming back. The few times i have bayed and shot over my dogs i havent had an issue with em coming off the hog, to be honest just about everytime i have shot the hog they pile on it immediately after the shot.....havent really figured out why but they do....
Mine do the same. If you shoot one around my dogs better make a good shot because they are going no to pile on him. |
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l.h.cracker
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Fine dogs Chris.
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CHRIS H.
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Fine dogs Chris.
Thanks ! I'm blessed to have great dog people in my life ..who have been successfully running dogs for many many years ..in a lot of cases longer then I've been alive They sure are helpful when question time comes around ..it ain't hard to ruin a good dog if you don't know what your doin haha |
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l.h.cracker
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You're dang right buddy the same goes with these hog dogs the most valuable assets to have are good friends whom have been successful in this game.Dont try and reinvent the wheel just keep her greased up and keep on rolling lol.Those field trials look like a good time for sure.
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Reuben
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It is hard to beat the confirmation on Pointers, English or GSP. They are physically top specimens for the most part.
x2...even the working weimers are usually good looking dogs as well... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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Reuben
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intro to gunfire-puppy development...training pups to gunfire is easy for me but I have been around hunting dogs for over 50 years...I do not put too much emphasis on any training mainly because I only care to have dogs that meet my minimum requirements. if I were in it for competition then I would take it to that level.
Intro to gunfire is important to me in that I do not want my dogs to run a mile to the truck if I were to shoot over them...or leave the hog right when I am showing up to the bay...I was wanting to explain a little more on this subject but have been very busy here lately...
I can see how a person without much experience can create gun shy dogs by making a few mistakes while trying to break a dog to gunfire...
however, I can say that I don't have dogs that need breaking because I break them as pups...
it is fairly easy to do and there is no secret to it...as I have said many times I use hunger to my advantage...I train/expose pups to winding/finding and trailing at a very young age for two reasons...and that is to expose them to these sessions so they can learn to use their senses and mainly for me to see who is born to do it naturally...this information I use to select as best I can and also for breeding natural's...
when I turn the pups out in the morning it is always before they eat for several reasons...during this time I clean their kennel while I observe them do what pups do and by this time they will really have an appetite...
Once I am done cleaning I let them play until the edge is almost off of them...I then go inside to the fridge and find and cut up some left over chicken or liver chunks...I then go outside and call them to me clapping my hands...I also exaggerate my calling as if I were calling my dogs out of the woods...might as well take all these opportunities to train as I use their momentum to my advantage...they come running and they are milling around me because this is about the third time I have done this...I have conditioned them to focus on the treats...
conditioning them to the treats is key...that will become their primary focus and that is what I want...once that is established I then know it is time to train to gunfire...
the next morning I will use the same routine...except this time I will have my cap pistol ready...
when I call and they are coming to me I shoot up in the air once or twice as I watch them closely...I will call and they will come and mill around...I will pet them up real good so their focus returns to the treats and the gunfire becomes minimal to them...
about the forth time of this I shoot high over their heads a time or two and pet them up real good...
the next session or two I will shoot down close to where they are milling around...and of course I pet them real good...I start shooting once or twice to get them coming to me during each session...I just add to it as they progress...
The key as I mentioned is being very observant of how the pups are reacting and making adjustments as needed...
If I really want these pups to be totally broke to the gun I would do this every 3 months or so until they were about ten months old...the first session being the most critical...after that would be once or twice per session..
but like I already mentioned I do not care to totally have them broke...I just want them to not run away at the first time I shoot...after a short while they will learn to stay because it is more fun to do so...
didn't mean to get long winded but I felt the new guys might need the detail so they can be successful...I can't say this is the best way but this works for me...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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CHRIS H.
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Thanks for the write up Reuben !
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