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« on: September 12, 2016, 07:10:20 am »



20 lbs of brown sugar and pineapple...



15 lbs of jalapeño and cheese...

Also made 10lbs of seasoned ground meat and cut the back strap up and ran it through our cuber and made cube steaks out of it. That was my half my hunting partner took the other half.

Little over 100 lbs of clean, hormone free, antibiotic free meat from that one hog, next good fat one is going to be made into pork chops and roast...

Cooking some this morning and figured I'd share (at least the pics)...

Cajun this is the reason I didn't make it to run pups that Sunday morning, we were cutting this big boy up...
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2016, 07:52:43 am »

That sure does look good man, im ready to put some game in the freezer myself.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2016, 10:48:02 am »

That looks and sounds awesome.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2016, 12:11:50 pm »

That brown sugar and pineapple sure sounds different... it looks good!
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2016, 12:29:42 pm »

I'm trying the pineapple and brown sugar this year!
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2016, 02:54:09 pm »

We are too, sounds great

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2016, 10:44:31 pm »

If your making your own BS&PA depending on your preference add a little extra seasoning because the BS kinda tames the spice down and be sure to strain as much of the PA juice as you can off the PA, we made a batch once and it came out mush when we smoked it, only thing we did different was we didn't strain it, have strained it as usual ever since and haven't had a problem...


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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2016, 04:36:50 am »

Looking good Goose ain't never had that bs/pa but it sure sounds good.
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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2016, 10:26:06 am »

looks good....want be long and I'm gonna ground some .....caught a good bar in a  trap couple days ago ...right now I got some young dogs I wanta  bay  on him and I need a few  more to go with him ... I feed half the country .....this dude  has  some teeth on him top wetters curl way up also has cutters  3  inch or better .....let m bay on the outside pen is real big ......but anyway i'll be grinding before long myself ...
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2016, 02:43:25 pm »

Looks good Goose. Next time you come over, you will have to bring me a sample.  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2016, 03:22:39 pm »

10 4 on that goose! All we need now  is a cool front to bring us a north wind and knock the humidity down and a big ol barr hog........i got a pretty good idea on where to find the barr hog, the cold front on the other hand......

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2016, 08:58:17 pm »

Man that will be some fine eating there
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 01:54:31 am »

so a question for yaw that do barr them for consumption.

 at what age would yield the fastest weight increase by feeding 16% protein and adding in 99% veggie fat per 2 lbs of the 16% protein feed?

iv got some "pen raised" feral hogs about 4 or 5 months old right now and are segregated from the litter mates and are about 1.5x bigger than the rest of the shoats.

i put 2 aside, one blonde one for selective breeding to my next blonde sow and the other is just a normal red/brown hog, which will be for slaughter. he has actually put on the most wt. of the 2 and i was gonna barr him, just wanted to wait a bit (8-12 months) before cutting him and then maybe putting him in another pen and just pouring the fat and increasing his protein consumption from the 16% feed to around 40% by adding a portion booster of 24% protein. well i guess it would 40% if my math adds up correct, unless the 24% counteracts the 16%.

can anyone confirm or deny my math of getting 40% out of 16 and 24? and would barring him now yield the faster wt increase, or waiting till he is a yr or so?
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 05:50:01 am »

Charles, I could be wrong but you are not going to be feeding 40% protein. Just say you were feeding a feed that had 24% protein & a equal portion of 16% protein of another feed, that equals out to 20% protein.
  I would go ahead & cut them now but what would be interesting is if you woud cut one now & if you have one of similar size, leave him a boar & see which one grows off the fastest.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2016, 06:23:49 am »

so a question for yaw that do barr them for consumption.

 at what age would yield the fastest weight increase by feeding 16% protein and adding in 99% veggie fat per 2 lbs of the 16% protein feed?

iv got some "pen raised" feral hogs about 4 or 5 months old right now and are segregated from the litter mates and are about 1.5x bigger than the rest of the shoats.

i put 2 aside, one blonde one for selective breeding to my next blonde sow and the other is just a normal red/brown hog, which will be for slaughter. he has actually put on the most wt. of the 2 and i was gonna barr him, just wanted to wait a bit (8-12 months) before cutting him and then maybe putting him in another pen and just pouring the fat and increasing his protein consumption from the 16% feed to around 40% by adding a portion booster of 24% protein. well i guess it would 40% if my math adds up correct, unless the 24% counteracts the 16%.

can anyone confirm or deny my math of getting 40% out of 16 and 24? and would barring him now yield the faster wt increase, or waiting till he is a yr or so?
Do you have to feed them a certain diet? My wife's family owned a hog farm for about 45 years and they just gave them food from our school that the kids would dump after school lunch they were happy to give it away and all they did was boil it with some water then feed it to the pigs

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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2016, 11:27:15 am »

Cajun, thats what i was wondering, if the protein would cancel each other out to an extent. i do have 2 segregated in an old dog kennel. the 1 I'm wanting barr seems to be packing on weight (fat more than anything) from the loose flabby skin behind his front shoulders and in front of his hind legs. the other will be my blonde breeder boar once i can get a blonde sow out of another litter. if at their current age would be better, ill try and get it done my next rotation home, but got some heavy electrical work to do first and iv gotta get some anti biotic and find my skin stapler and the staples.

Hyan, they are not on a specified feeding program and heck, free food, even if its less in fat and protein will still come out cheaper than buying feed at $12 a bag. iv been giving them 2-3lbs of feed a day and at 6 months, was gonna increase to 6 lbs a day, so supplementing with free food if always welcome. just gotta find a school or restaurant that would give it away. go buy some plastic 55 gal barrels with lids and once they are full, either myself or the wife can go pick them up, but I'm gonna have to build block and tackle system so to speak so the wife will be able to load the full barrels. I'm guessing they will weigh 2-300lbs per and she won't be able to roll them into the tck bed as easy as i can, if at all.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2016, 12:12:28 pm »

if your going to eat the pigs  do yourself a favor and feed them grain ...people don't realize  most pigs we eat in the winter  is acorn and corn fed off deer feeders ...... we owned an operated a custom slaughterhouse and a meat market in town when I was  in my 20's ....... slop fed  hogs are prone to disease that's why you are souse too cook it before feeding it ...... if you have  some  pigs  calf  dreep pellets  work real good ...I helped my uncle butcher 5  head  of listed hamps average 254 pounds a piece 5 months  old self feeders calf creep pellets ...one of the littermates got over into another pen and was fed rice bren and cops 175 pounds ....worming and feed make a huge difference ....now wild pigs don't grow like domestic's  I know .....  plus  stress is a big factor keep a dark place the wild ones can hide  and they will grow better .....protein grows pigs ....
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2016, 08:19:30 am »

Cajun, thats what i was wondering, if the protein would cancel each other out to an extent. i do have 2 segregated in an old dog kennel. the 1 I'm wanting barr seems to be packing on weight (fat more than anything) from the loose flabby skin behind his front shoulders and in front of his hind legs. the other will be my blonde breeder boar once i can get a blonde sow out of another litter. if at their current age would be better, ill try and get it done my next rotation home, but got some heavy electrical work to do first and iv gotta get some anti biotic and find my skin stapler and the staples.

Hyan, they are not on a specified feeding program and heck, free food, even if its less in fat and protein will still come out cheaper than buying feed at $12 a bag. iv been giving them 2-3lbs of feed a day and at 6 months, was gonna increase to 6 lbs a day, so supplementing with free food if always welcome. just gotta find a school or restaurant that would give it away. go buy some plastic 55 gal barrels with lids and once they are full, either myself or the wife can go pick them up, but I'm gonna have to build block and tackle system so to speak so the wife will be able to load the full barrels. I'm guessing they will weigh 2-300lbs per and she won't be able to roll them into the tck bed as easy as i can, if at all.
They would just leave the drums there at the school and that was enough food to feed pigs 10 pounds a day n we only had about 800 kids in my school so if u get a school with a 2k kids that's alot of feed they didn't have any problem with pigs that were not fat that's for sure so all the pigs they sold we pretty much all profit

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2016, 08:21:14 am »

if your going to eat the pigs  do yourself a favor and feed them grain ...people don't realize  most pigs we eat in the winter  is acorn and corn fed off deer feeders ...... we owned an operated a custom slaughterhouse and a meat market in town when I was  in my 20's ....... slop fed  hogs are prone to disease that's why you are souse too cook it before feeding it ...... if you have  some  pigs  calf  dreep pellets  work real good ...I helped my uncle butcher 5  head  of listed hamps average 254 pounds a piece 5 months  old self feeders calf creep pellets ...one of the littermates got over into another pen and was fed rice bren and cops 175 pounds ....worming and feed make a huge difference ....now wild pigs don't grow like domestic's  I know .....  plus  stress is a big factor keep a dark place the wild ones can hide  and they will grow better .....protein grows pigs ....
It was way to much to import grain..but you are right it can cause problems if you don't cook it they just had a 55 gan dum that would cook the slop then feed

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2016, 02:36:27 pm »

3 parts corn and 1 part soybean meal is what i feed .
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