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Mr. Oinker
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« on: September 29, 2016, 07:46:46 am »

Is around a year old too late to fix bad habits and get a dog to listen and start training to hunt? I have been looking into getting a pup out of a dog I used to own but I would have to have family keep the dog for around a year while I finish up college and get out of my current house. I know for a fact that they would spoil the dog rotten and it would have no manners by the time I was able to take over. Their dogs jump on people, run off, just act bad in general. I would be able to see the pup probably every weekend to work with it but just wondering if anyone has had any experience with taking older pups and working with them.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 07:53:39 am »

I wouldn't even mess with getting a pup knowing I don't have the time to put into it that I'd like, but I really would like to get some pups off my old dog. She was a young bluetick and when I sold her she was winding, trailing, roading and finding pigs at a year old but had no idea how to stop them. I couldn't afford to feed a bunch of rough dogs to help her and I had a baby on the way so I sold her. Have been regretting it ever since.   
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 09:40:57 am »

It's 6 ways 1 way half a dozen the other, I've took on dogs that were 2/3 years old that wasn't worth the lead it woulda took to cull them due to not being used proper and made some nice solid dogs out of them with very little effort, I've also been sent some that never made the cut... With my experience in this is I personally wouldn't take 1 knowing it would be a year before I could start using the pup to the full extent especially being raised in a pet home instead of a working home then try to be converted but it's each to his own.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 10:48:46 am »

^ i agree. I personally put quite a bit of time into my pups by a year of age, thats when they are most impressionable.

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 02:25:46 pm »

It's 6 ways 1 way half a dozen the other, I've took on dogs that were 2/3 years old that wasn't worth the lead it woulda took to cull them due to not being used proper and made some nice solid dogs out of them with very little effort, I've also been sent some that never made the cut... With my experience in this is I personally wouldn't take 1 knowing it would be a year before I could start using the pup to the full extent especially being raised in a pet home instead of a working home then try to be converted but it's each to his own.
Well the other optition is to have them just socialize it as a young young pup and then put it out in the yard like a yard dog and not make it a pet necessarily. I will be able to put almost as much time into it as I would if I had it in my yard because I'm not going to work a pup but maybe on the weekends until it is older anyway. I am more concerned with people's experience taking a more or less untaught dog and teaching it the basics such as sit, stay, not to jump on people. I'm not worried about being able to put enough time into it to get it to hunt, just talking about the more manners related aspect.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 02:58:21 pm »

That aspect I really can't touch on due to the fact of the nature of the dogs I raise.. Their not sociable type of dogs I guess you'd say.. They'll never jump on you or beg for attention type of dog. Most of them from the time they are 12 weeks old to their dying day don't really want to be petted or caught. I spend an enormous amount of time with my Bulldogs as pups just to prevent future bad habits but my cur dogs are raised loose until they start getting too far from the house, baying cows multiple times a day, harassing the other dogs in my yard then they go to a kennel and start getting used sometimes that's at 4 months old sometimes it's at 14 months old. I like to see a dog start on its on not me having to force train it I guess you would say. Some are willing to please at a young age some take quite sometime before they actually want to work. I hope this helps.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 02:58:21 pm »

It's 6 ways 1 way half a dozen the other, I've took on dogs that were 2/3 years old that wasn't worth the lead it woulda took to cull them due to not being used proper and made some nice solid dogs out of them with very little effort, I've also been sent some that never made the cut... With my experience in this is I personally wouldn't take 1 knowing it would be a year before I could start using the pup to the full extent especially being raised in a pet home instead of a working home then try to be converted but it's each to his own.
Well the other optition is to have them just socialize it as a young young pup and then put it out in the yard like a yard dog and not make it a pet necessarily. I will be able to put almost as much time into it as I would if I had it in my yard because I'm not going to work a pup but maybe on the weekends until it is older anyway. I am more concerned with people's experience taking a more or less untaught dog and teaching it the basics such as sit, stay, not to jump on people. I'm not worried about being able to put enough time into it to get it to hunt, just talking about the more manners related aspect.


That's the way I do my bird dogs .. I like them to learns to hunt before I put a handle on them .
My youngest one didn't know what a leash was till acouple weeks ago . He's right at a year .. heel , whoa (stand there ) , come .. it doesn't take long to teach .
https://vimeo.com/184910186

^ no handle doesn't care about me .. I catch him at water.

No shock collar no rope .. he'll stand  there till I tell him . I can put dumb stuff on him .. because he's not a coyote any more .

Same with this dog https://vimeo.com/184911123




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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2016, 03:14:04 pm »

That aspect I really can't touch on due to the fact of the nature of the dogs I raise.. Their not sociable type of dogs I guess you'd say.. They'll never jump on you or beg for attention type of dog. Most of them from the time they are 12 weeks old to their dying day don't really want to be petted or caught. I spend an enormous amount of time with my Bulldogs as pups just to prevent future bad habits but my cur dogs are raised loose until they start getting too far from the house, baying cows multiple times a day, harassing the other dogs in my yard then they go to a kennel and start getting used sometimes that's at 4 months old sometimes it's at 14 months old. I like to see a dog start on its on not me having to force train it I guess you would say. Some are willing to please at a young age some take quite sometime before they actually want to work. I hope this helps.
I think we think similar about bay dogs at least. I want to give plenty of time for the dog to be a pup until they start showing interest on their own. There are cows and livestock to peak interest out there as well. I am feeling much more confident now about this decision and I will just let the pup run loose until it's time to put it to work. With as much hound blood as in the pup it's liable to mature late anyway. Thanks for your advice!
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2016, 03:17:30 pm »

Chris thanks for the input. I have heard the opposite a lot, that it was important to get a handle on a pup as quick as possible which I've always tried to do. Glad to know it's possible on older pups too. Nice looking dogs by the way!
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2016, 03:56:03 pm »

Thanks , it's just the way I do it for my bird dogs .. I know the blood lines So i pretty much know what I'm getting into. There is folks that focus mainly on yard work (training ) then turn the dog out to hunt , because they know what the run and hunt will most be  .  Until I'm happy with how they hunt the only correction they know is cows and deer hurt .


I would have some level of respect in place before I ever turned out a mystery dog on a hog hunt being on someone's land . Shock collar absolutely .. but it needs to know what your asking of it before you just start shocking it.  If it has any aggression issues or thinks it's a guard dog it would never make the ride.

^ all what I would do .. not saying it's the right awnser

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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2016, 10:56:54 pm »

I didn't read all the comments, but no I don't believe a year old is too old to teach manners. I'd start from day one that you get the dog back  with consistent discipline. Just my opinion
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