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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2009, 07:31:48 pm »

Well back in the day when you never saw hogs at feeders or on the highway, the days when the only time you knew a hog was around was when it was killing sheep and goats; the only dogs used to hunt them were full blood hounds, mostly running walkers. They were used because of thier nose and bottom, even tho they could trail a hog that was 12-18 hrs old they would also bark everytime thier foot hit the ground and would never put a tooth to one. I remember 10 hounds on one boar for 12 hrs and they never stoped him long enough for us to catch up.
The nose that was needed then also had some negitive things with it, all the barking being the main thing. This I believe started the training of the hogs we have now days in the hill country. Those barking hounds spoiled lots of hogs that later taught young ones that if a dog is barking you better haul a@@. I have seen hogs move out of a canyon ahead of bawling hounds 300-600 yards just because they knew where the dogs were.

So it really wasnt the nose but the barking; but to get the nose we needed back then we had to put up with the barking. You get my point, it was a package deal, barking and nose.

When most people talk nose they are refering to hounds, and stoked it looks like has bluetics. To most in the hill country a full blood hound of any breed is not wanted in thier pack just because of the barking even if you do want the nose.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2009, 05:31:35 am »

i bought a couple of hounds for picking up where the other dogs loose the hog. my bluetick is open but doing better every hunt. she also does better in wet conditions and swims well. a lot of the time, we keep hound in the box or boat for backup dog. the plotts we hunt are mostly silent, so they usually run with the other dogs. any way you slice it, sometimes the hog is gonna get away, but we catch 3 out of 5.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2009, 08:10:14 am »

That is great stoked glad it works for you, but many times i think young hunters dont understand the diff between nose and bottom.
A good cur dog with with a med nose but lots of bottom can sometimes do much more good than a cold nosed hound.

The fact is in most cases its not the dogs looseing those kind of hogs but the fact that they just give up. You put a cur with tons of bottom on the same hog and you would most likely see a change.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2009, 12:35:01 pm »

These don't work in thick stuff very well, but there just isn't much out there that can outrun these in the open. We have used her in some open-to-wooded situations, and she was able to get there and make it happen. She is basically treated as a lead in. She will honor a bay and has the legs to get to those hogs who break and bay and break and bay and so on. As well, she's pretty fun to send to a group in the wide open. Believe it or not, that fine little snout has a heck of a bite, and she many times has to be choked off. She will back up and bay on a big hog, but at least she gets there to slow them down. As long as it is something she even remotely thinks she can handle, she is caught. For sure Foxxy isn't the answer to every running hog problem we have had, but she has sure helped in certain situations. They want me to cross her on Clifford, but I really like that she backs off the ones she can't handle since she is a pet 90% of the time. I would think that a few greyhound/leggy bully crosses would be like a pack of fast piranhas in the woods. It's likely they would stop the hog, then eat it leaving you once again to believe you were outrun.


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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2009, 12:56:45 pm »

i have that same problem in some of the places i hunt . what works 4 me is just put one or two grown dogs that know what they are doing and wont get to rough but rough enough make him turn . to many dogs put to much pressure from what i have witnessed . that is what works for many on the ones breed with a race horse. and dont ride the four wheeler to close walk in with the catch dogs from 150yards are so and let the catch dogs handle the rest. thats just my .02 on the subject
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2009, 05:10:36 pm »

well, im fixin to go hunt some pigs. ill tell yall if they get away.
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