When to put a good dog up for breeding?

[l.h.cracker]

At what point do you decide to bite the bullet and stop hunting your favorite young dog long enough to get pups off her? My gyp Holly is now 18 months and proving to be exactly what I want in a dog no real flaws to speak of and I'd like to base my yards entire future off her so to speak. I also enjoy hunting her so much that I have a really hard time leaving her at home also her two cycles she's had so far were barely noticeable no swelling just a few drops of blood for a few days.Her last cycle was the end of November so I will have to wait until May or so to even breed her and then Four more months on top of that if I do get her bred so if I do put her up now it could be September before I get to hunt her again.The problem with continuing to hunt her is she needs no other dogs to get it done and will take any boar as far as he wants to go and stay till the end so every single time I turn her out it's a role of the dice. I know that all of you have faced this same delima before and I am just wondering what y'all have done also I have read on here how there are ways to make a dog cycle and if I could get her to cycle early and stronger that would be great to.

[tmatt]

That is one of those decisions that only you can make. Some people will tell you that she is too young to make that determination while others will tell you to put her up now and start breeding her. If you have made up your mind and know she is what you want to base your yard off of them bite the bullet and put her up before you get her killed. If she still has something to prove or you want to see more from her keep hunting her and if something happens to her then it wasn't meant to be. There is no right or wrong answer, either way she is your dog and it is your choice on when and if you put her up for breeding. I raised and used APBTs for a long time and I had a 42 lb male that was as good a dog as any that have looked through a collar. He had proven himself a couple of times so I decided I wasn't going to use him anymore and just breed him. Well, I couldn't resist so I said ok, one more time. Boy did I mess up, he ended up getting semi castrated. I had a vet try to put him back together but I was never able to get anything off of him. He was as game as they come, had tons of ability, good mouth, nice style, great bloodlines and an exceptional personality. To this day I still think what if... That is just my personal experience with one in a similar situation as yours.

[justincorbell]

If you care about her as much as it sounds like you do i would put her up and focus on hunting other dogs. Better safe than sorry

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[ArtHenrey]

Before its to late bubba. 20+ head caught behind her this year wouldn't be worth an entire future of dogs..


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[joshg223]

Well I had 3 above average dogs that I was completely satisfied with and I really enjoyed hunting them and got wrapped up in catching hogs, then all the sudden I look up and I'm down to one good dog and have just about shot myself in the foot. So if we're to do it over I would spend a little more time in breeding and less time worried about catching once said dogs have proven themselves without a doubt in the woods.


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[joshg223]

And for what it's worth my last and best dog got gutted about a month ago because I wanted to keep hunting her and I'm very fortunate that she is making a good recovery if she would have gotten killed I would have been starting over from scratch. It's aggravating hunting her pup but it's what I'm gonna have to do until I get her bred again and nobody's fault but my own for not trying to raise a few pups along the way   


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[WayOutWest]

You might miss her for the time she is out but how much would you miss her if she was unbreedable. Lots of things happen to the good ones, the sorry ones seem to live forever. I don't believe I would mess with the lutalase shot as there are too many side effects for my taste. But sometimes it is tuff to get everything hooked up on those bitches that don't show much on a heat cycle. It is easy on a bitch you can just kennel with the male but many won't tolerate too much attention when they are not ready.

[l.h.cracker]

Well I have found the Male im

[l.h.cracker]

Going to put over her he's everything you could ask for in a hog dog and a proven producer as well. I am going to put her up until I can get a litter hopefully all works out.

[NLAhunter]

I think you making the right call by putting her up if that's the direction you want to go with your dogs you never know whats going to happen when you turn em loose

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[Scott]

Put her up until you can get something off her. I learned the hard way...one never got bred and a couple of others didn't get bred enough...

[Jmesonp1]

Outstanding females that can reproduce outstanding pups are a rare commodity. Males can have semen collected and continue to hunt them but females are destined for brood pen or gamble on losing. The other guys said it right, no right or wrong decision. It's hard not to take a healthy dog to the woods.

[dallas22]

Im glad u brought this up in in the same boat i got a male jagd that i hadnt hunted in a year cause of an injury to his back leg, but i did hunt him fri night and i was impressed  with his work . He hit the ground running like he never lost it. Anyhow i was thinking about retiring him cuase of his injury and just stud him out. He's  the best dog I've owned in my short time of hog dogggin. Ive got a pup off of him but im not sure if he'll  make the cut but he's still young.hopefully that liggt switch will turn on.

[Mr. Oinker]

I've finally got a female I wouldn't mind breeding to and a male pup I sold is turning out to be a damn fine dog, but I am in the same boat. I don't wanna quit hunting the female. I've only got 3 dogs at the moment because I only hunt once a week and don't need a lot of dogs. If I breed her I'll have to take a big hit in my productivity since she's my lead dog. How much time would I be looking at without her from conception to weaning on average?

[T-Bob Parker]

all the advice you've been given is good and valuable, but if I could be the devils advocate here for a minute, a dog proves its breed worthiness over several seasons over catching hogs, and the longer that dogs successful career, the higher the likelihood that its pups will continue its tradition of excellence. If you begin to routinely breed dogs that don't live passed 2 - 2 1/2 years old, you compound your issue of having dogs who lack the durability to live to maturity.  If the dog in question is the end of a line, or even just the sole survivor of an irreplaceable litter then that could be a different story, but if its just an impressive young specimen, why not give it three years or so to fully mature and earn its right.
 

maybe this is not a problem you face, I am just throwing out my belief for public consideration

[TexasHogDogs]

All u got to do is this.

Ask yourself.

Can she be replaced if the terriable happens?

There is ur anwser.

I stopped hunting Cracker a year after I got him.  Why because he could not be replaced should he get killed. 

[TexasHogDogs]

Its one thing if the dog can be replaced with another near as good.  Its another story if the blood cannot be replaced.

[l.h.cracker]

That's right Jimmy.... and that's why I am doing what I'm doing.

T Bob not everyone has a yard full of super dog's such as yourself that we need to tie one leg up and put cow bells on, not drop till 2pm on a dusty road to make it fair type of dog's but I'd like to so that's the reasoning for the decision to breed.

[dallas22]

I think you have to play your cards and know when u got a good hand and when to fold them or"cull" them.

To be honest with my situation my dog is 5 years old. An i know if i hunt him he'll work his a** off. I dont have to worry about him being at my feet the only flaw is sometimes he dont like to load up at the end of the hunt but a little shock treatment has helped. I dont hunt everyday or ever month but when i do he produces. Anyhow everyone has good points an good reason but in the end its your dog and judgement if u should sit a dog down for breeding.

[T-Bob Parker]

That's right Jimmy.... and that's why I am doing what I'm doing.

T Bob not everyone has a yard full of super dog's such as yourself that we need to tie one leg up and put cow bells on, not drop till 2pm on a dusty road to make it fair type of dog's but I'd like to so that's the reasoning for the decision to breed.

Understood, I just subscribe to the belief that whatever you put up with, you'll end up with. Wasn't trying to be rude at all.