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« on: October 18, 2009, 07:50:43 pm » |
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I was looking at it on ebay has anyone used this vest?
If so whats some of the pros and cons?
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 04:40:54 pm » |
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would like some opions on this vest as well.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 06:50:41 pm » |
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No personal experience, but it looks hot. I am not sure about the weight and it only has one leg flap on each side whereas most ugly dog vests have three.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 08:55:58 pm » |
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Another gimmick, Very poor sloppy fit from the picture, means more resistance with motion working against the dog.
How much does the gel weigh?
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 09:10:32 pm » |
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it does not allow the dogs to move as i think the dogs should be able to , the dog cannot even jump in the back of the truck with the the vest on.....what is yalls opionon a on good vest at a good price. :'( as i've got 175 in a vest i dont realy like :'(
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 09:26:12 pm » |
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Has anybody who actually used the "gladiator" have an opinion?
Opinion without experience is really only speculation... (probably biased opinions to start off with anyway)
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 09:35:55 pm » |
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I am biased to vests and other equipment that does not fit right or protect a dog as a I feel it should.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 09:42:16 pm » |
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I am biased to vests and other equipment that does not fit right or protect a dog as a I feel it should.
Have you hunted with the gladiator? If all anybody knows about the gladiator is what we see in the picture, then we're all speculating... Don't knock it till you try it.... I haven't tried it, I'm not knocking it. I value many of the opinions from the experience of the people on this board. Surely someone on here has tried it... |
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 06:28:14 am » |
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Another gimmick, Very poor sloppy fit from the picture, means more resistance with motion working against the dog.
How much does the gel weigh?
From my experience, ALL brand new vests do not fit the dog well. It's not until the vest is hunted in and begins to adopt the shape of the dog that it starts to look well fit and look like the vest works with the dogs movement. IMO, All brand new vest need to be broke in. I do not agree with calling the vest a gimmick. My Disclaimer = I never even heard of the gladiator before this thread and know nothing about "gel" protection. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 07:34:16 am » |
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I don't know anything about this gel packed vest, but anyone with a question concerning cut gear should HIGHLY value Uglydog's "biased opinion".  Her entire life for the past ten years has revolved around developing, testing and USING the vests we all put on our dogs... so I believe she's more qualified than anyone on this forum to give an opinion.  |
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 07:39:22 am » |
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it does not allow the dogs to move as i think the dogs should be able to , the dog cannot even jump in the back of the truck with the the vest on.....what is yalls opionon a on good vest at a good price. :'( as i've got 175 in a vest i dont realy like :'(
It looks like someone's used the vest...  |
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 07:40:51 am » |
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I'm just looking at the components of the vest and I'm wondering where the cut resistance is going to come from. I've never seen cordura and nylon stop good cutters with regularity.
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 07:44:23 am » |
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my opinion doesn't really matter all that much as my dogs are young and i don't have my own experiences with vest, but i do think there is a point where "more is less". As in to much stuff means less of what the object (vest) is meant to do.
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2010, 08:05:11 am » |
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so I believe she's more qualified than anyone on this forum to give an opinion. since she has no personal experience USING the vest to develop an opinion, we'll rank her opinion's value above everyone else who also hasn't used it. But I would value ANY opinion from ANYONE who has actually used one above hers. IMO, it's a general rule of thumb that it's a trade off between protection and movement. More protection = less movement. Less protection = more movement. Now I'm sure that there is a sweet spot in that ratio that designers have found to build a popular vest. In the Gladiators case, i interpret based off visual speculation, that the vest provides more protection, less movement. But certainly, not a gimick. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 08:11:09 am » |
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My Disclaimer - since I used to be in the business, I know that if I want to sell a product, I should put a picture which is someones first impression to like or "dislike" a product without being able to put and try on my own animal that I need to make it look good and and need to include some info about Feild Testing a product, That part does not take a genius to figure out. That was not there.
Since I have put hundreds of dogs in vests and worked with seamstress for fit and benefits of dogs, then tested for mobility and function for years, I can look at it and the angle and picture provided -Then Own MY Opinion of what is Good and What is not, maybe the angle of picture, maybe the squatty dog, either way that is not good marketing if the product is that good. Thats My opinion from what I can see-
Since It was Posted on the INTERNET ASKING, then I can post my opinion, You can read or not read it, but seems that you think I am biased against a product that does not have my name on it? So who is judging here?
Josh whats your real deal here?
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2010, 08:24:34 am » |
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This is JMO, but i think that the gel would make the vest hotter towards the summer months. Kind of like the camel back backpack with the water bag. Between the weather and your body heat, after a couple hours it starts getting warm. Also, alot of people buy their vest on looks. Just like on ebay, you have no way of knowing exactly how the vest fit, how hot the vest will be, or the quality of the vest. You are buying by what you read and see. If i were looking for a vest, i would not pick this one because like uglydog said, it has a sloppy fit. I think the vest should fit snug, and mainly need to be broke in around the leg and neck areas. And it looks hot and allows minimal movement. My observations are all based on the LOOKS of the vest. It may be the best vest ever made, but it doesnt LOOK like it. JMO |
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2010, 08:26:11 am » |
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DANG IT! somebody always post before me and throws my post off! |
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2010, 08:39:11 am » |
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Josh whats your real deal here?
I think you represented your experience and expertise alot better in this last post than you did when you referred to it as a "gimmick". I like to think of myself like Fox News... Fair and Balanced. I own protection gear from Flatwater, Tejas, Hoot G., Extreme Outdoors, Ugly Dog and Southern Cross Kennels. All have their pros and cons. I don't know what gear you run Crystal, but I'm guessing a majority of it is Ugly Dog. |
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