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« on: October 20, 2009, 10:52:25 am » |
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is it ok to use bayer tree & shrub with fertilizer for dogs ? cant find it without. anyone know where to get it without.
where do you get dominion ?
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2009, 11:14:28 am » |
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Mine has fertilizer in it. I have used it for a while now and no problems, except my dogs have gotten taller  |
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 11:49:58 am » |
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i called bayer and they told me that all they sell now is with the fertilizer in it. they have discontinued the regular. just want to make sure it is safe to use.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2009, 12:37:20 pm » |
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Before too long they will stop using the forumla that we need. When they pick on the fact that dog owners are using it they will stop making it. They also make one of the flea treatments. Cross use of products is bad for their bottom dollar.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2009, 12:51:49 pm » |
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Ortho Tree and Shrub Insect Control 32 oz
Martin's Dominion Tree and Shrub Insect Control 32oz
Gordon's Tree and Shrub Insect Killer-sold at TSC
All the same thing as the old Bayer tree and Shrub w/o the fertilizer in it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2009, 12:59:22 pm » |
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Before too long they will stop using the forumla that we need. When they pick on the fact that dog owners are using it they will stop making it. They also make one of the flea treatments. Cross use of products is bad for their bottom dollar.
Your exactly right. Imidacloprid is manufactured by Bayer Cropscience (part of Bayer AG) and sold as Advantage and other trade names. Some speculate that Bayer caught wind of the cross-use of the "Bayer Tree and Shrub" and added additives known to be harmful to pets(Nitrogen). |
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2009, 04:02:09 pm » |
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I still find it in our local Ace Hardware(Bmt) by the truck loads.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 12:35:43 pm » |
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Mine has fertilizer in it. I have used it for a while now and no problems, except my dogs have gotten taller Yea I got a dog that has stalled out. Reakon how much it would take to add about 6 inches? |
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 02:43:47 pm » |
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FYI at Home Depot  |
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Dirtydog
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 08:26:45 pm » |
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Cool... Thnx I've been using w/fertalizer but will get some of that soon.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 08:27:44 pm » |
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The Bayer complete insect has the same active ingredient and without the fertilizer.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 09:07:52 am » |
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Ortho Tree and Shrub Insect Control 32 oz
Martin's Dominion Tree and Shrub Insect Control 32oz
Gordon's Tree and Shrub Insect Killer-sold at TSC
All the same thing as the old Bayer tree and Shrub w/o the fertilizer in it.
I use Martin's dominion tree and shrub, same active ingrediant that you need and about 6-8 dollars cheaper. I get it at the local feed store. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 10:17:36 am » |
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Anybody used the Ortho brand. I put it on 3 of my dogs last night and about 30 minutes they were all going nuts scratching and whining. Its almost like it pissed off the fleas and they all started biting. I let this go on for an hour or so then gave them all baths and there fine now.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 10:34:56 am » |
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Anybody used the Ortho brand. I put it on 3 of my dogs last night and about 30 minutes they were all going nuts scratching and whining. Its almost like it pissed off the fleas and they all started biting. I let this go on for an hour or so then gave them all baths and there fine now.
been using the Ortho max for about 2 years and it has eliminated my flea problem. also has twice the strength. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 10:36:58 am » |
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Before too long they will stop using the forumla that we need. When they pick on the fact that dog owners are using it they will stop making it. They also make one of the flea treatments. Cross use of products is bad for their bottom dollar.
x2...I believe that happened to the injectible triple antibiotic years back. it has been pulled off the shelf... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2011, 10:43:13 am » |
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Anybody used the Ortho brand. I put it on 3 of my dogs last night and about 30 minutes they were all going nuts scratching and whining. Its almost like it pissed off the fleas and they all started biting. I let this go on for an hour or so then gave them all baths and there fine now.
been using the Ortho max for about 2 years and it has eliminated my flea problem. also has twice the strength. How much are you putting on the dogs and where? Do you spray their area as well? |
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2011, 11:13:17 am » |
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Chad,
I looked at a package of advantage and then calculated off of their vial...A 20 pound to 50 pound dog should get about 15 ccs or mils between shoulders and down the back is how I do it. I usually use about 10 mils and it still works on my dogs.
Just make sure you are using rubber gloves and rub it down to the skin. My dogs are on concrete slabs so I haven't had to spray. I have heard of others spraying the area and the sleeping area as well. I am willing to bet it will work.
Permethrin 10 works good on dogs and good for the area where the dog hangs out as well as where he sleeps.
I usually get by with treating my dogs once or twice a year...
I have also read on here where the fleas are getting immune to the Bayer tree and shrub. most of the bayer will be 0.75% active ingredient but the Ortho Max is 1.47% and I calculated off of Ortho Max...With the bayer it would take 30 mils. Probably why it is not working for others because not using enough...
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2011, 02:27:23 pm » |
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2011, 03:08:51 pm » |
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The only one that works is the Bayer whos 1st ingrediant starts with Imiad....
Just dont mix with water just like front line. works great for fleas, not ticks
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2011, 03:50:31 pm » |
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The only one that works is the Bayer whos 1st ingrediant starts with Imiad....
Just dont mix with water just like front line. works great for fleas, not ticks
The first ingredient in the Ortho that I posted a picture of is imidacloprid at 1.47% |
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