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Judge peel
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« on: January 03, 2018, 06:34:57 am »

Any one see a certain breed and or line that produces constant rig dogs


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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2018, 08:00:19 am »

I've seen rig dogs in lots of breeds and strains of breeds. Nearly any dog that will hunt can be taught to rig. The best way is to have them out front where you can read their body language. If they act strange or start winding, just slow down or stop and give them the chance to get off or bark.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 08:07:41 am »

Ya I know how to rig was asking more bout some who produced them constantly. Yes most decent dog can rig and if there in front you can tell by what there doing. But I am talking bout riding around in the box back of the truck or on the hood or rig platform and sounds off and falls bayed


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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 10:11:13 am »

Cajuns dogs excel at it, the proof is in the pudding, that's the most productive way to hunt the marsh in the winter months around here and their numbers speak for themselves, he's the only one I personally know that has produced consistent dogs that excel at it in our area...
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 10:22:14 am »

Gotcha goose I have heard that my self. I had talked to Cajun few yrs back bout getting a pup just never did.


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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 11:03:04 am »

Judge as you well know, Many of the hound breeds will sound off better then curs but I have seen some excellant  rig dogs that were curs. They dont all bark but you can definitely read the body language. I have been very lucky that my dogs rig well but even then some are better then others. All will rig when they smell a hog but to me, the gifted dogs that will rig cold tracks are the ones that are special. Of course not everybody wants to rig the cold ones, they prefer to just dump their dogs on hot hogs & nobody is going to pass up the hot rigs. lol But they do miss a lot of hogs. As one of my friends from Ark. told me when he came down to hunt with me, These are like bonus hogs that the dogs rig. It really saves a lot of time knowing that you are putting out right where the hog is or where he has been.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2018, 11:52:50 am »

Gotcha Cajun.  Ya I have some good ones in deferent flavors. But like you said even guys that rig or hood don't get those often. A good rig dog sure can save you lot of time sifting here and there.


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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2018, 11:57:01 am »

My half plotts rig pretty good and haven’t been trained for it as are my half gold nugget bred kemmers...

Some of the gold nugget bred kemmer mt curs have a superior winding nose...they like to wind as much as trailing...but finding good ones are getting harder to find...that is why I am converting to plotts...
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2018, 12:55:49 pm »

Mine are of mnt cur and Kemmer cur crosses. I got a old fl cur x cat that will rig some times lol.


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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2018, 01:33:39 pm »

Ive never had a strike dog that wouldnt rig, have yall? BMCs are what I run but imagine its true for any breed... Heck even my cds wine when they smell one
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2018, 03:39:19 pm »

Makeup squeal, Your right...but some can wind better than others...
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2018, 03:42:42 pm »

I have seen plenty good dogs that won't do crap on a rig but set them on the ground and there good. Lot of dogs smell the scent there just not reacting to it. There is a lot that can go in to it. Ya you can't put any dog up there and they might do it but a good one is way different. Heck my bull dog will cry or bark on the rig to don't make him a rig dog


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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2018, 04:12:09 pm »

I have only seen a handful of really great rig dogs, but I have seen a lot of dogs that can whine and babble on the rig.

I guess its like hog doggin in general. Most dogs can smell a super stinky hog if you drop them on top or next to one, that doesn't necessarily mean I would call them a good strike dog. Just how I see it.

As far as your question JP that is a tough one that I really don't have a specific answer for other than if you want to have a better chance of your pup being a good rig dog, buy that pup from a hunter that his main way of hunting is rigging.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2018, 04:33:07 pm »

Just about all of mine have and will rig but it's not consistently, main time I've seen them do it is when I'm hunting out of a boat and I guess that's because I can read their body language because they're in front of me, only real good rig dog I've ever owned was by shear accident, he was a half English half plot and dead silent on track but would bark when he rigged one, coming out of the swamp one night a group ran in front of my truck  and he went nuts in the box so I turned him loose and the rest was history he took to it like a duck to water...
 I owned a bulldog that I bought as 3 year old that was hunted his entire life before I got him out of a boat in the coastal marshes and I guess he picked up on it hunting that style, and he was a rigging fool and I'd call him a rig dog any day of the week because I can't ever recall a time we either didn't catch or jump a hog when he barked on the box, he might not have winded cold tracks like some can but he was as accurate as any I've ever hunted with, he NEVER barked in the box but when he did I had all the faith a man can have in one that swine was nearby, I also discovered by accident that he was a good rigger as well...
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2018, 06:07:26 pm »

I've found that Parker dogs excel at winding hogs. I use to raise em but I don't anymore unless it's a cross. But to me that was what they were best at was rigging hogs.

Best dog I ever owned found hogs outta the box or the buggy and I DONT hunt that way, so I never encouraged it. But at 4-5 months old riding down the road he would wind cows, hogs, deer, it didn't matter and he would blow up. I'm pretty sure all his littermates were like that as well. Just something natural to em and their momma was 3/4 Parker. He really excelled at winding a bobbled track or when trying to get ahead of the dogs on a road, when he blew up, you could turn him out and he'd be on the hog the other dogs were running and usually bay it because he just cut the lead that hog had by a bunch.
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2018, 10:41:47 am »

Gotcha BA IV  I seen few Parker dogs well that's what they where calling them lol. I do know of one tho that was a decent dog but never seen her rig. Probly would have tho.


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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2018, 12:03:28 pm »

Any real good line bred line of dogs will all demonstrate pretty much the same characteristics with a few different tendencies, but when I was raising em and hunting a few times a year with Larry...His Poncho dog to me was as good as they come off a boat.  I don't know if his pups inherited the tendency or not, but I don't see them not excelling at it.  Just one line I had experience with that done it better then a lot.  My red dog off Van Dorn's Boogie dog was as good as they come on rigging a track, and he did it as a puppy like I said.  It was cows, horses, deer, hogs, it didn't matter, he blowed up in the back of the truck no matter how fast we were going.
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 05:17:05 pm »

I have seen plenty good dogs that won't do crap on a rig but set them on the ground and there good. Lot of dogs smell the scent there just not reacting to it. There is a lot that can go in to it. Ya you can't put any dog up there and they might do it but a good one is way different. Heck my bull dog will cry or bark on the rig to don't make him a rig dog


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You have had good strike dogs that if you put them in a spot to rig that wouldnt do it well, once you did it a few times for them to clue in? Im sure some strike dogs wont clue in/cross over but most ive seen do. 

When my CD wines and I cut them loose and they catch a pig I defiantly call him or her a rig dog! But I know what you mean, some breeds like cow or hounds/bird dogs are better suited for it. That said ive had 1 dogo and 1 scott bred ab that were as good at that as most, came in handy winding crops ...
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2018, 08:49:01 am »

Ya most dogs I seen where ether scared to ride the hood or just wouldn't show anything then I seen dogs that will but bark just to get down. I guess I am talking more about a fine tuned type dog not just a strike dog that ride the rig


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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2018, 05:27:16 pm »

A dog does not have to ride on the hood or the bow of a boat. I have seen them in a box & they will rig out of it.  I also would call any dog that lets you know there are hogs around whether it is by whining, jumping up or down, or barking, if they are letting you know they smell hogs, they are a rig dog. I have had mine rig going 75 mph down the interstate & they all sound off.
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