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« on: March 02, 2018, 10:11:26 pm » |
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I would like to start by saying I am not a genetic engineer, I am a dogman/cowboy/observative person, I've read many of these breeding debates over the years on this forum, and I would like to not see this post turn in to a big genetic debate! With that being said, let's kick it off. Most every 1 on here at 1 time or another probly had some ol man say look at that dog there look at the way he's put together, that's what your looking for or a heifer or a bull or a using horse etc. that is we're I'm going with this no scientific reasoning just old tried and true having the eye for what you want and how to make it. Example: F1 Braford cattle, technically you can put a bramer bull over herford cows or a herford bull over bramer cows and have the same product. But to me the herford bull over bramer cows is the way to go! To me they are just better than the other way, others may not agree debate is not what I'm interested in, yaws personal observations and experiences is what I'm interested in hearing about. The last couple of years I've been paying attention to a lot of different folk's plott/black mouth crosses and I own several myself at this time, if you pay attention to my handle on this board I've never been glued to a specific breed, I'm personally more concerned with getting the job done than purebred this or that, but I've taken a shine to this cross and am interested in what others have observed and experienced with this cross. Like for example: do you have better luck with using a plott male over yella bitch or yella male over plott bitch, another example: wright cur male over a Pocahontas plott bitch was the ticket for you worked out just like you wanted, or a weems plott male over a Ladner bitch? That's were I'm going with this what some of yaw would like to contribute with your experiences and observations? Currently I have a very good young male that is an old east Texas tight bred line of yella dog male over a Pocahontas bear bred bitch, I like him! I like him a lot! The man that bred the litter he likes them a lot, fact is, mine is the only 1 that left his yard! And he's tried a dozen times to buy him back! LOL mine he's built right, he hunts hard, and best of all he ain't suicidal, he thinks about what he's doing, handles good to very seldom do I ever leash him. Well I hope this turns in to a good conversation, I've been gona write this for a wile but most the time I get side tracked, so here goes I'm anxious to here just some good ol boy logic. Thank you all for reading
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NLAhunter
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2018, 08:42:26 pm » |
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We have some plott catahoula crosses that working out pretty well a good ole buddy of ours breed these and he has made crosses several times though the years he is older and had dogs a long time he said it always worked better for him putting male catahoula over plott gyp said he tried the other way didn't have as good of success. He has some good line bred catahoulas and crossed to plott that goes back to Pocahontas plotts I raised 3 out of that litter that all made dogs and the ones that went to some other guys made dogs so he has had real good luck crossing em like that for awhile. We are planning to bred female I raised from that litter and breed her to male catahoula that is out that same line probably next time she comes in heat
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Pwilson_10
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2018, 07:31:46 am » |
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Not color blind I have them all kinda ways cur over walker plott trigg and walker plott trig over catahoula vis versa man I really think u get u a sure nuff jam up hound of any kinda as long as she is pretty and we’ll built and the right kind u know the kind of dog u like and breed them and u will have more of what u want it has worked for me not every pup was a supper star but that’s y God made dogs have more then one puppy so u have more to pick from hahahahah
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Judge peel
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2018, 11:55:41 am » |
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I feel like the hound crosses can produce outstanding dogs but straight one breed is more consistent. You just have to try and see what you get. I got a cross that is just over two and she has been doing real good.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 12:14:49 pm » |
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I feel like the hound crosses can produce outstanding dogs but straight one breed is more consistent. You just have to try and see what you get. I got a cross that is just over two and she has been doing real good.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 12:16:54 pm » |
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Pwilson_10 We had some back 8-9 yr ago that wer triggX1/2 cur 1/2 pit they were pretty good but none of them lasted to long, I think we had 1 that made it to 3 yr old, they were hell wile they was here thou! Thanks for the feedback from yaw, so far the male cur over the plott bitch has given me the best results for me
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2018, 12:21:36 pm » |
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I'm not disputing any logic at all, I've had lots of full blooded dogs that were great, just curious bout what others have seen from the different ways they've made some crosses that's all, I have six black & brindle registered cats that are my cowdogs they are full blood and are great at what they do
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jdt
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2018, 06:57:30 pm » |
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imo for hog dogs lots of crosses might work . for cowdogs i wouldn't change the recipe on mine .
them ole boys took alot of time to perfect it . and if i was wanting to bay , work and pen hogs like they used to i would'nt add nothin either .
i hunt horse back and don't catch every hog i bay , but i pen most cattle i bay . i've penned cattle that they said would be impossible to pen , but i have to rope some from time to time .
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Reuben
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2018, 08:16:20 pm » |
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Some of the best hotdogs I ever saw over the years were hound crosses...
I had three half plotts that all have made good dogs...one died from heat exhaustion...he was a Hog stopper...the other two are good dogs...
The forth pup I gave to a friend and he is a good Hog dog as well...the fifth pup I gave to another friend and he is only used as a blood trailer for deer...all these dogs are being used successfully...
The female to these pups was a Pocahontas plott...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2018, 04:59:12 am » |
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i have some half parker 1/4 bloodhounds 1/4 catahoula that is making nice dogs ...and there is no track bark in em so far .......and can fly .....
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2018, 09:10:39 pm » |
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scatter bred hunting dogs are 50/50 at best , go line bred no matter what you prefer, i hate open dogs and most half hounds are so my .02 may not matter, but line bred vs good to good dog beats them a much higher % of the time.
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