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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2018, 07:12:55 am »

Goose87, I don't know much about it
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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2018, 05:24:49 pm »

Goose87, I don't know much about it

I’m still relatively new with it myself, what I have found out about it is that it is ONLY inherited from the mother, a few of the genes and traits that are inherited through it one being the protein responsible for heme- production, the main component in hemoglobin that delivers oxygen throughout our bodies, this would have an impact on the overall bottom a dog has, metabolism and overall digestion and break down of foods into cellular energy that powers the body, muscle memory and reaction quickness and reflexes, these are just a few that m aware of and have read about thus far, this is all well documented scientifically proven and not some back yard breeder such as myself theory...

What are your thoughts on this in comparison to what you’ve seen yourself in your own breedings...
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2018, 07:25:15 pm »

Goose I'm sure there is a lot to that.    Look up sex linked chickens and see if that's not basically the same thing.    If so it's easily proven in chickens.      I know a lot of the Aussie's used to claim that if you use a bull bitch and breed to a Dane or stag you will get a little shorter legged and bigger headed dogs than if you use the stag or dane female and the bull male.   I've not done breedings that would yeild such clear evidence, so just be speculation on my part of I was to say.    I don't really doubt it though.   The chicken deal is some pretty hard evidence to support you question if indeed sex link is same thing your referring to.   
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2018, 06:15:45 am »

Here are a few pictures of another dane that has been a pet all his life.   Over 4 years old.  Picked him up one morning and he was lugged up that evening.    He typical for what I've been fooling with lately and describing.   Pit hard and hunts like a scent hound.   Puts nose to ground and is just gone.  Pain in the butt if you like practical dogs and easy hunting.   Nothing easy about hunting behind a Dane.  Ain't no drinking and socializing, your there to hunt lol.     Got him turning loose and rolling out with the hairy dogs.  He roles out but takes his own direction using that nose.    Extreme pain because I'll have hairy dogs 3/4 miles away on a pig and him off in another direct.   One of the reasons I prefer 1 dog

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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2018, 08:46:01 am »

Cool pics


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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2018, 11:32:08 am »

Cool pics


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X2...

Seems like the red dog prefers the left ear more often than not...
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2018, 11:57:35 am »

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X2...

Seems like the red dog prefers the left ear more often than not...




Nah, just  coincidence in the last few pictures.    Look back at the ones in the start of this thread and you will find him on the right just as much as the left.  Even in the pics he is seen holding by himself.   
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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2018, 04:45:32 pm »

Love your pics and write up Black Streak.
From what I read and see of your post your NOT trying to re invent the wheel but your sourcing the best from what has already been proven with natural ability which to some is hard to see or find.
Your write up shows you have a lot of passion and dedication to your dogs and you see whats in front of you.
Really like the type and style of dog you run also.
A lot of dogs Down Under have the Dane X blood but I'm not sure that the Full blood has come hunting families and your style of selection makes a heap of sense.
Again top write up mate.

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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2018, 04:30:41 pm »

Love your pics and write up Black Streak.
From what I read and see of your post your NOT trying to re invent the wheel but your sourcing the best from what has already been proven with natural ability which to some is hard to see or find.
Your write up shows you have a lot of passion and dedication to your dogs and you see whats in front of you.
Really like the type and style of dog you run also.
A lot of dogs Down Under have the Dane X blood but I'm not sure that the Full blood has come hunting families and your style of selection makes a heap of sense.
Again top write up mate.

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Thanks, I do have a lot of passion for this.    Dogs such as a good Dane inspire me and push me to be better.    Really got to be on your game to hunt a good Dane.  The passion such a dog has and hardness combined with its physical abilities and traits is unmatched by any other breed I've ever hunted or hunted with.    They are just the ultimate 1 out dog.     Their passion for hunting is often times more than you care to take with you lol.        Crossing a hairy dog to such a Dane if needing to put more nose, range, heart, or hardness on a hairy dog is best way to immediatly fix issues without diluting things such as size, agility, quickness, strength, while adding in nose, hardness, heart, and hardness.         They hairy dog is soooo user friendly and such a practical dog for catching pigs, just a joy to own and hunt and take with you day in and day out.    Even out in the boat catching fish or going to town or riding in a truck checking cattle.    Take deer hunting with you and leace in the truck like a boarder collie, etc etc.     The good Dane however is just so passionet about hunting he has a 1 track mind and is no where near as practical as the hairy dog.   I love them both.       I have made a commitment to being a better dog man.   To hunt the passionet Boar Hound (good Dane) virtually requires it of me.          It's unbelievable how little about this dog is known today.   How to properly care for it and it's requirments.   People think it's an apartment dweller and couch potato.  Indeed they have transformed the breed a lot but the DNA is still there and manifests itself in many still today.     Get one of these that is what i call a "good one" and wow!       Most pig dogging Americans don't really understand how to use hairy dogs or what makes them so practical and successful.     A select few do but most can't get passed the bay dog mindset and mentality or see past the common talking points to really responsibly hunt a hairy dog and see just really what a good hairy dog can do.      So switch gears a little and talk about the dane the way i do and people think I've lost my marbles.    They know the Dane as a yard ornimant or apartment dweller. They have never seen a decent one hunt much less a good one and just what the Dane mentality and capabilities truely are.            Had a good friend tell me a few times that a Dane is harder than a pit.     I didn't say much because he doesn't say dumb off the wall stuff like that.   He is very reserved but a no nonsense guy.   He gonna shoot you straight.   So I just thought WOW, what a bold statement to make.      I've never seen it.      Some time later and having had went through a few danes searching for a "good one" I know now how he can make such a bold statement.   The hardness and heart of a good Dane in my opinion is only rivaled by that of a pit.        If me and the one other person i know of here in the US can make such a bold statement as to compare the hardness of a good Dane to that of a pit, can you imagine what the original Danes were like if today after hundreds of years of being bred by pet owners and show people for apartment dwelling dogs and yard ornimants to deliberately put a passive nature on this majestic breed as to conform them to the dane we have today.       The Dane is a hunting dog but hasn't hunted in hundreds of years.    Yet still searching through only a few knowing what to look for when your picking through them and how easy it is to get a good one if you could afford to buy what you found.    Just imagine what the Dane once was if, such Danes as I speak of can still be easily obtained by someone knowing what they were looking for in them.        No reason to reinvent the wheel.    Just repair it or rebuild it, not reinvent it.     For many have tried but nothing can compare still today with the 1 out performance of a good Dane.   They are truely an inspiration and make me have to become a better dog man and man for that matter in order to be a good ambassador of, breeder of, and hunter of such a breed.    Works already been done, seems only invention necessary is the  proper comprehension of what a good Dane really is.    I am still learning much about this magnificent dog called Boar Hounds.  I'm not talking about the pet danes I'm talking about the hunting danes or Boar Hounds
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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2018, 11:46:23 pm »

Do you find any difference in the dogs gender with performance ?
Would you have any yard pictures of these dogs. When you say hairy dog are you talking of the wolf hound type ?
How long is the really good boar hounds taking to mature ?

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« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2018, 02:16:04 pm »

Do you find any difference in the dogs gender with performance ?
Would you have any yard pictures of these dogs. When you say hairy dog are you talking of the wolf hound type ?
How long is the really good boar hounds taking to mature ?

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        Performance as it relates to gender, I'm not gonna make a blanket statement that males perform better than females because I've had some females that out did some of the males of same litter.   To me the performance of the individual has more to do with heart, passion, and desire than gender.     All things being equal I'd rather hunt males than females for a few reasons.    Both genders work well though.   
     Yes i have pictures of these dogs on my yard.   Pretty simple to take pictures of a dog on your yard. 
      Yes when I say hairy dog in talking about a wolfhound type/based dog.   
       Boar Hound and maturity, I'm not sure if you mean physically mature (danes take a couple years to physically mature) or mentally mature.    Are we talking hicking a leg to pee and mark territory, show dominance to unknown dogs, interested in breeding, or catching their own decent boars by themselves?           I'll start taking a dog around 1 year old and let them start lugging with another dog.    Usually by 15 months old they are seeking out and catching their own decent boars.     I don't consider either boar hound or hairy dog mature till they are around 2 years old, even if they are rock stars at 15 months.      The rock star at 15 months old often looks fairly mature, hunts and catches really well but you can tell around the dominate male on the yard that the 15 month old is still a pup.     
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« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2018, 06:39:43 pm »

Black Streak...I have often thought about the Weiner dog...as a kid I had several and they were naturally hunters even after man years of being bred for pets and show dogs...my son has one now that will catch a squirrel now and then...he also will kill rats and would kill birds if he could catch them...it is my theory that many phenotypical traits go hand in hand with genoty
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« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2018, 07:22:44 pm »

Well...my phone is acting up...will try later...
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