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« on: January 29, 2019, 07:49:40 am »

Pups just cleared 3 months old. We’re finally down to the 4 we are keeping. 3 males 1 gyp. Was a few of you guys I’ve talked back and forth with we’re interested in the litter and told me to post updates so I figured I’d start a thread. So far my 2(2 on right in first picture) will come up to you if they want to and you can catch them, but they aren’t overly friendly. Little glass eyed pup is her momma all over again and I mean just like her. She’s the feisty one of the bunch and definitely the most vocal, whoops up on her brothers and the occasional big dog lol. The little silver leopard male is quiet, kinda always off doing his own thing, he is the biggest by far of the bunch and the shyest. Not that he’s lacking any self confidence he just don’t care for you to grab on him, which I fine by me if he can learn to have a good handle. My uncles 2 are some proud little suckers, the dark brindle one is the runt and boy he is fearless. Mowing the dog yard yesterday on the big zero turn and had them all turned out in the yard. After about 2 passes he no longer paid any attention to it. The little brown leopard pup is probably the most even out of all of em. Good head on him, he pays attention to everything, plenty friendly, comes if you call, we turn them all out for a little everyday while we’re working and you can often find him say about 10 yards from you sat on his ass just watching. I liked him when we was first born and I really like him now that I get to see his personality. Here in the next 2-3 months I will pick on of mine and they will start spending every day all day on the truck or whatever with me, just getting packed around so they can see and experience things. Will work on learning their name(which I guess it’s time to start coming up with names for the 2 that don’t have them yet) and getting a handle on them so they can start tagging along penning cows and hog hunting


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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 10:19:01 am »

Good lookin pups Slim. Love the confirmation ( cur dogs with a nice ear to them) and color on them. Good luck with em.


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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 12:17:27 pm »

They look real good Slim.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 04:30:34 pm »

hey slim , whats the background on them pups ? i was wondering if there was'nt some yeller in their woodpile .
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 05:10:21 pm »

hey slim , whats the background on them pups ? i was wondering if there was'nt some yeller in their woodpile .
The momma comes down off some tater blooded dogs off of Monty Bennet and Carlton Carters yards , that whole family of dogs throws lots of color. The daddy is out of an old line bred family of stock bred leopard curs from right here around Lexington Texas and these dogs come in 3 flavors. Brindle, leopard(most people consider what we call leopard to just be brindle), and the occasional yella. But these yellas rarely have the black mask, they are usually straight yella from nose to tail. There was a male out of this litter came that way that a boy up around st Augustine has.


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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2019, 05:36:33 pm »

They really look good slim
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2019, 07:37:10 pm »

Good looking puppies I hope they turn out for you

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2019, 07:55:30 pm »

Good looking pups there Slim.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2019, 09:31:15 pm »

Thanks guys. Expectations are sky high for these guys. Their momma is continuing to become one of the best dogs I’ve gotten to see go and she is by far the funnest I’ve ever gotten to hunt with, really can’t say enough about her and she’s just coming 2.5. And their daddy, as good as a cowdog as he is, his longevity trumps it all. Pushing 14 years old and a lead cowdog. It’s a trait you really don’t hear people talk about, but it is number one on the list for my uncle and makes more sense than a lot of the other common stuff you hear talked about.


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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2019, 03:53:06 pm »

hey slim , whats the background on them pups ? i was wondering if there was'nt some yeller in their woodpile .
The momma comes down off some tater blooded dogs off of Monty Bennet and Carlton Carters yards , that whole family of dogs throws lots of color. The daddy is out of an old line bred family of stock bred leopard curs from right here around Lexington Texas and these dogs come in 3 flavors. Brindle, leopard(most people consider what we call leopard to just be brindle), and the occasional yella. But these yellas rarely have the black mask, they are usually straight yella from nose to tail. There was a male out of this litter came that way that a boy up around st Augustine has.


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Who’s the Lexington stock from? My cousin hunts most of my stuff from over here in east Texas, but he has 3 dang good ones from Clayton’s stuff that have some leopard dog in them. They usually come out black, black and brindle or brindle.. all with blaze faces.

I absolutely love that country. We tied 60 head one weekend on a couple ranch’s in Lexington and rockdale.


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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2019, 07:14:51 pm »

hey slim , whats the background on them pups ? i was wondering if there was'nt some yeller in their woodpile .
The momma comes down off some tater blooded dogs off of Monty Bennet and Carlton Carters yards , that whole family of dogs throws lots of color. The daddy is out of an old line bred family of stock bred leopard curs from right here around Lexington Texas and these dogs come in 3 flavors. Brindle, leopard(most people consider what we call leopard to just be brindle), and the occasional yella. But these yellas rarely have the black mask, they are usually straight yella from nose to tail. There was a male out of this litter came that way that a boy up around st Augustine has.


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Who’s the Lexington stock from? My cousin hunts most of my stuff from over here in east Texas, but he has 3 dang good ones from Clayton’s stuff that have some leopard dog in them. They usually come out black, black and brindle or brindle.. all with blaze faces.

I absolutely love that country. We tied 60 head one weekend on a couple ranch’s in Lexington and rockdale.


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my uncles name is Cullen Wagner, he owns the daddy to the pups. Family of dogs started originally with his late uncle a man named Timmy Exner and a Jamie Woodward.(anybody from around here ought to know those 2 names) They were bred off 3 leopard male dogs that originally came from doughbelly quinney


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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2019, 08:47:48 pm »

Slim I hunted a male that was given to me by Johnny Morton 20+ years ago. Jaime and Johnny hunted together and I think that their lead dogs were littermates. Johnny's dog was named Curly but I can't quite recall Jaimie's dogs name. Johnny always talked real highly of him though. Said both were really good but one was  better on cows and the other was better on hogs but both worked good either way. The dog given to me was out of the last gyp from Johnny's families line of dogs bred back to Doughbelly's last old Male, ol' Dummy. This was a red motley colored dog with a ring neck and a hog dog by most anybody's standard. He was easy on the eye to boot. I'd be scared to guess at how many hogs I caught with just him and my old Clyde dog it was a bunch. I hunted him all around the Rockdale area and then moved to Palestine. He was solid anywhere I cast him. I also bred my old Clyde dog back to a Doughbelly gyp that my really good and extremely missed friend Johnny Biehle had. It was a litter of cracker Jack's buddy. I can name off at 4 or 5 out of a litter 6 or 7 that were way above average hog dogs. One of them I lost track of and one got  caught by a hog. I like the doughbelly dogs I've had dealings with and hunted with.
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2019, 10:55:12 pm »

Slim I hunted a male that was given to me by Johnny Morton 20+ years ago. Jaime and Johnny hunted together and I think that their lead dogs were littermates. Johnny's dog was named Curly but I can't quite recall Jaimie's dogs name. Johnny always talked real highly of him though. Said both were really good but one was  better on cows and the other was better on hogs but both worked good either way. The dog given to me was out of the last gyp from Johnny's families line of dogs bred back to Doughbelly's last old Male, ol' Dummy. This was a red motley colored dog with a ring neck and a hog dog by most anybody's standard. He was easy on the eye to boot. I'd be scared to guess at how many hogs I caught with just him and my old Clyde dog it was a bunch. I hunted him all around the Rockdale area and then moved to Palestine. He was solid anywhere I cast him. I also bred my old Clyde dog back to a Doughbelly gyp that my really good and extremely missed friend Johnny Biehle had. It was a litter of cracker Jack's buddy. I can name off at 4 or 5 out of a litter 6 or 7 that were way above average hog dogs. One of them I lost track of and one got  caught by a hog. I like the doughbelly dogs I've had dealings with and hunted with.
T dog you just impressed me a little bit. Lots of people will feed you a line of number 2 like they know these dogs and the story but most don’t have a clue. You are very close to what I can remember of what I’ve been told so many times.  I have heard Jaimie mention Johnny in the last few weekends hunting with him. Larry Moe and Curly were the 3 dogs this all started with. I believe it was Jaimie got moe and Timmy got curly. Timmy ended up with that old dummy dog somewhere down the line to the best of my knowledge too. Out of a breeding of that dummy dog Timmy ended up with a dog named Sam. Sam was a lanky muscled up solid yella dog and from the story’s I’ve been told Sam was a hell of a dog and made himself a heck of a name around these parts. Everybody wanted a pup off the sam dog. Sam went down the road and bred another boys leopard gyp right after Timmy passed and Timmys son went and picked a pup up. Whole litter came out black except for one, looked just like sam. Son picked the yella one and named him junior, took him back to their homeplace where he grew up with a beagle. He’d follow that beagle to the bottoms and bay anything that moved all day everyday, grew up wild, long story short my uncle ended up with the junior dog and he’s still here on the ranch. Dude is Rank as the day is long, one of the best dogs I’ve seen hunt though he’s about the most hard headed aggravating dog you ever met too. As many years as have gone by I’m sure the story’s have changed a little here, my uncle and Jaimie swear if Timmy was still here he could write a book with every detail exactly as it happened, I wish all the time I could have met the man I always hear about in the story’s. in this picture are pictures of some of the old dogs my uncle had (top to bottom) Bridget, Charles(spitting image of the old same dog), and Danny I believe(the junior dog I was just talking about that we still hog hunt looks just like this). To this day everybody who was around the dogs and knows the history swears Bridget was likely the best hog dog that was walking Washington county(my uncle lived in New Ulm and was working at blue bell at this time) from the time she was 3 years old until she died from cancer at around 14. Danny I believe was a grandson to Bridget and Charles was out of Danny or something like that. this is the daddy to the pups Levi. He’s around 13, he’s out of a gyp named summer that was out of the Bridget dog. Summer was a Blue leopard saddle backed yellow gyp. This isn’t a line of dogs with 200 dogs running around. Over about 30 years it has spanned about 6-8 generations and maybe 60 dogs atleast as far as what the 3 men I know produced. My uncle and Jaimie can tell you about 30 easy. They were bred here, raised here, and worked here. It’s what makes it all so cool to me. Thomas we are going to have to get  together sometime soon. Seriously


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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2019, 06:56:48 am »

We definitely will Slim! I don't know if you know Jody Reat from Tanglewood, but he had some of these dogs too. He and Johnny were related by marriage when he was a kid. Anyway, Jody had gyp named Sister. She was out of my Clyde dog and the Doughbelly gyp, which looked nearly identical to your bridgette dog. Sister was a really nice dog. He also had 2 males dogs named Todd and Badger, both Doughbelly dogs. Todd was a yellow dog that looked like the Charles dog you have pictured. I never cared for him much. He was a little different and and didn't have a lot of hunt but was used working sight cattle mostly. That could've been a lot of the hunt problem because he kept them in close so they would be there when he was ready for them. He could work his butt off, had a good handle, and was salty enough that Jody could tell the 2 of them to catch on command. Badger was a little more my type. He looked more like the rest of he family in build and was a dark red dog. Both dogs went both ways, cattle and hogs. He bred both dogs to sister at different times and got good results. He has male now that goes back to those 2 crosses directly. There's a cowboy over around Huntsville that uses those very dogs EVERYDAY on cattle, not open pasture cattle but hunt'em up cattle. So there is a taste of it still out there.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2019, 08:41:03 am »

hey slim , whats the background on them pups ? i was wondering if there was'nt some yeller in their woodpile .
The momma comes down off some tater blooded dogs off of Monty Bennet and Carlton Carters yards , that whole family of dogs throws lots of color. The daddy is out of an old line bred family of stock bred leopard curs from right here around Lexington Texas and these dogs come in 3 flavors. Brindle, leopard(most people consider what we call leopard to just be brindle), and the occasional yella. But these yellas rarely have the black mask, they are usually straight yella from nose to tail. There was a male out of this litter came that way that a boy up around st Augustine has.


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Who’s the Lexington stock from? My cousin hunts most of my stuff from over here in east Texas, but he has 3 dang good ones from Clayton’s stuff that have some leopard dog in them. They usually come out black, black and brindle or brindle.. all with blaze faces.

I absolutely love that country. We tied 60 head one weekend on a couple ranch’s in Lexington and rockdale.


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my uncles name is Cullen Wagner, he owns the daddy to the pups. Family of dogs started originally with his late uncle a man named Timmy Exner and a Jamie Woodward.(anybody from around here ought to know those 2 names) They were bred off 3 leopard male dogs that originally came from doughbelly quinney


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10-4. You can’t beat that. Good luck with them. They are pretty suckers. Glad your sketch dog has produced after losing your Kate dog. It’s always tough replacing the good ones. Hopefully these pups carry it on.


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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2019, 09:02:38 pm »

slim . just wonderin . do this line of dogs stay out front an lead cattle when your penning ? or how do ya'll pen cattle with them .

allways interested in how different folks use what their feedin .
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2019, 09:12:29 pm »

slim . just wonderin . do this line of dogs stay out front an lead cattle when your penning ? or how do ya'll pen cattle with them .

allways interested in how different folks use what their feedin .
Naturally they most all want to stay out front and lead. We usually leave pj(outcrossed son out of Levi and papered cat bitch) our front to lead them and call the others back. They will hang back and kind of flank the cattle, if the herd gets to moving too fast or starts to break they’re right back on them without any coaching, putting them back in a bunch and getting them stopped. I have a little 45 second video I took the other day, pushing a set of F1 heifers up out of a 120 acre bottom towards the truck and trailer so we could catch the bull and get him in a trailer. I’ll get it uploaded to Vimeo and post it in just a little.


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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2019, 09:29:28 pm »

https://vimeo.com/315043380 black dog is deets, Out front leading is PJ(outcross son out of Levi). Big brindle dog farther towards the front is Levi, and brindle dog that stays to the back outside is my Sketch gyp.


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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2019, 06:12:32 am »

Good stuff slim, lay with them and them ole dogs will teach you more ways of the world than any man alive can if you keep an open mind, it's kind of a refreshing feeling seeing someone as young as you are be dedicated to your dogs the way you are, and it's awesome to see the next generation carrying on a legacy of dogs as others before you have done....
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2019, 07:08:46 am »

Sounds like you made a solid breeding decision Slim. I have hunted dogs directly out of a son of Tater named Freak for the last 8 years. The dogs I have hunted are above average track/find dogs with a lot of stick/bottom. Loose baying for the most part. Very reliable & durable line of dogs. Started and finished a pair of pups out of Freak and a pair of grandsons out of his daughter. 3 of the 4 have turned out to be really nice dogs that consistently put you in hogs. The characteristics of the male you chose look like they will compliment the Tater dogs well. Look forward to hearing updates on these dogs!


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