RCD types and breeds yall are using

[l.h.cracker]

I ain't even read all this but I'll get into the mix and say this, ain't but one way to truly know something is what it's claimed to be unless you go see for your self, heck  boys go put the dogs down and see what you got somewhere else, it's as easy as that, won't have to convince some body something by word if you can go show for yourself, as long as it's done and kept respectable...

I ain't claiming nothing Goose87 just gotten tired of hearing how everyone is doing it all wrong and he has the only PROPER ONE OUT RCD type dogs.When in reality they've been bred right here in the GREAT USA to do just that for hundreds of years.Hell I moved my program towards the baying type and only have one Ol Rank SOB left cause I got tired of being TIRED running my butt off through HELL but them dogs do exist.I do believe Blackstreak has good dogs as well but they ain't of Biblical Proportions they just big fast rough crossed up dogs and he has plenty of land and hogs to test them on.

Goose87 You're the king of long winded write ups trying to convince folks of all kinda stuff with words so don't try and jump in the middle of this little argument like some kinda moderator just because you ain't the one typing a novel.lol...

[Black Streak]

Mr Cracker again you are making claims about my dogs that just aren't true.   Most of the dogs I have on my yard are crossed with nothing.      Some are most aren't.   

      And seeing how the curs / bay dogs have been used to catch 1 out for hundreds of years here in the USA and you seem to be such an authority on these 1 out bay breed catch dogs, let's see the pictures of them holding their own good pigs.    Surely you can produce many pictures of these dogs doing their thing since they have been doing it for hundreds of years and you are so familiar with them.   
     I'll post several pictures of several different dogs I have or have had that are doing their thing to back up my claims.    I mean it's hard to be taken serious if you can't substantiate your claims right?

[Black Streak]

That's 6 different dogs all on big pigs under fare chase conditions.   I got more  pics of different dogs holding their own but I think this illustration of 6 different dogs on big pigs proves I'm not talking theory, I'm fully capable of corroborating with solid proof.           Now, if you being the expert you are on this 1 out cur/bay dog stuff that's been catching 1 out  over hundreds of years, then i expect no less than like pictures of your dogs to back up your claims of knowledge and experience for surely if you have or had dogs that do it then you would have taken pictures of it.     1 out bay breed dogs catching their own big pigs is a rare thing "I" theorize but I don't know, never had or seen one.   But if I did I'd make dang sure I took pictures.     That's like saying i see big foot all the time yet you have no evidence.   

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[Black Streak]

Some of those catches were finder holder work of one style or another and some were crop work.   Some in the woods, some in the water, some in fields.   Some young dogs some older.     Some male some female.     Some daylight some in the dark. Some in North central Texas, some further west, and some from gulf of Mexico.       

[warrent423]

Ignore this "kook" Casey. He is obviously both arrogant and ignorant.

[l.h.cracker]

I know Dean your the best and so are your dogs God made yall that way it was Divine intervention.(I am a Christian Man and found this very offensive for some reason).You are right We have been making this stuff up about these Curs forever.Im done argueing with you it's beating the same DEAD HORSE that all your threads and conversations have been forever and I feel like a dumber man for falling into your finder holder trap once again.Keep up the good times out there by YOURSELF BLACKSTREAK....

[Mike]

Hell... I run finder holders. Mine find them and hold them bayed till I get there!

[Goose87]

I ain't even read all this but I'll get into the mix and say this, ain't but one way to truly know something is what it's claimed to be unless you go see for your self, heck  boys go put the dogs down and see what you got somewhere else, it's as easy as that, won't have to convince some body something by word if you can go show for yourself, as long as it's done and kept respectable...

I ain't claiming nothing Goose87 just gotten tired of hearing how everyone is doing it all wrong and he has the only PROPER ONE OUT RCD type dogs.When in reality they've been bred right here in the GREAT USA to do just that for hundreds of years.Hell I moved my program towards the baying type and only have one Ol Rank SOB left cause I got tired of being TIRED running my butt off through HELL but them dogs do exist.I do believe Blackstreak has good dogs as well but they ain't of Biblical Proportions they just big fast rough crossed up dogs and he has plenty of land and hogs to test them on.

Goose87 You're the king of long winded write ups trying to convince folks of all kinda stuff with words so don't try and jump in the middle of this little argument like some kinda moderator just because you ain't the one typing a novel.lol...

Easy now cracker I'm actually on your side here and the very first hog dog I ever owned myself was a straight catch leopard dog that never bayed a day in his life, he was used as a lead in but my hunting style was a lot different back then and I basically used him as a running catch dog but that was before that term was invented, back then he was just a real rough cur dog, so Im well aware that those type of dogs exist and aren't just a "new" thing , i can also appreciate Black Streaks style of dogs, he's and oddball and so am I, that's why I can understand and interpret his ways, and usage of words, we've had our share of debates in the past until I figured him out ( not saying anything bad about him or his dogs in anyway) I just understand him, we have a lot of similarities when it comes to dogs and how our lives have been shaped by them...


I maybe the "king" of getting long winded but trying to convince someone of something is far from it, I do my best to explain my understanding of something and share my point of view with others but trying to convince another person into something is one thing I'll never be guilty of, kinda like the old saying goes ,"you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink", folks can take what they want from my writings and put it to use or consideration if they want to or joke ,laugh , and snicker via PMs and text messages, I can truly careless, I'm well aware of the knowledge I have and continuing to absorb on a daily basis and what's between my ears about dogs and life in general, and I do not need any type of vindication or validation from anyone anywhere period, by no means am I the smartest man alive or ever will be and will be the first to speak of my own failures and shortcomings, and a moderator I am not, if y'all want to go at each other's throats by golly go for it, all I said is its simple enough to go see something for yourself if you don't believe one way or the other, never pointed a finger at either, Black streak is convinced with his style of dogs and you know what a good one out Florida type dog is capable of, now neither of you are convinced of the others arguments against the opposing style of dogs and the only way to come up with a solution is to roll your sleeves up and see for your self, it's as easy as inviting black streak to bring his dogs into your country and while he's there show him some old school Florida curs and vice Versa, take some of  those Florida dogs to his neck of the woods and show how effective they can be up there, and not just yourself but to anyone who has ever doubted or debated him and his style of dogs, heck I want to go see them in action for myself, not to try and belittle him or prove him wrong, just because I'd like to see different styles of dogs, his choice and use of words may come off a little edgy to some and will be the first to admit I once felt the same way, I hope this wasn't to terribly long winded for you my friend but one last thing I'll add about myself trying to convince others with words is I've always got an open door and food on the table for anyone who wants to come see just what I'm trying to convince others of, I'll never make a claim or anything like that I can't back up when someone thinks they're calling my bluff, take no offense from this post or the last one I made because that was/is not what I intended...

[Judge peel]

Lol mike holding is holding. I don’t see the big deal I got curs that bay and curs that catch. What ever way works I guess. Heck I just want to hunt anyone want to go holler at me


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[l.h.cracker]

Mike I've come to enjoy them kinda finder holder bayed dogs.

Lol Goose87 If Blackstreak or yourself or anyone else ever wants to make a hunt come on down but I dang sure ain't drivin 20hrs over a argument online.

[Slim9797]

Hell... I run finder holders. Mine find them and hold them bayed till I get there!

Lmao. WORD


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[Black Streak]

No one picture from any you big talkers claiming you have 1 out cur dogs?        How embarrassing

[make-em-squeel]

Hell... I run finder holders. Mine find them and hold them bayed till I get there!

Thats how we role ... for MANY reasons, other than its the best and most efficient in all terrain etc.! That said if sh!t hit the fan and i had to only own 1 dog to find and hold/ only hunt out 300 yds id get a good mut like a bird bull etc. However, In that situation id prefer a good cur that would strike and bay, then wait for me shoot over the bay then catch... glad im not poor and i can feed 2 dogs lol Thank u Lord bc my curs will out hunt any rcd

[make-em-squeel]

No one picture from any you big talkers claiming you have 1 out cur dogs?        How embarrassing

my curs bay, and bay right for me, (work head, dont get cut, stop runners, lots of bottom and hunt). The ones that are straight catch or just to gritty end up dead by 2 yoa or sooner generally, its a common problem were breeding away from but still keeping the lines tight. Im curious how the curs that actually hunt out, then catch or are too gritty, instead of bay, stay alive?

[Goose87]

Mike I've come to enjoy them kinda finder holder bayed dogs.

Lol Goose87 If Blackstreak or yourself or anyone else ever wants to make a hunt come on down but I dang sure ain't drivin 20hrs over a argument online.

Lol I feel  you brother, I hope no man would ever make a drive 20 minutes much less 20 hours over any argument, now two gentlemen displaying their dogs and their abilities to others who have different styles built for different areas and regions is different, lol, no matter the distance, if it were that important in the first place, I'd sure like to take you up on that offer one day just for the sake of seeing good dogs in different areas and seeing different areas myself, heck I like the adventure as much as the hunt...

[Goose87]

No one picture from any you big talkers claiming you have 1 out cur dogs?        How embarrassing

Dude ask for some invites to go see firsthand, rest assured the members of this forum who know these dogs exist aren't the only ones down there that hog hunt and that have those types of dogs...

[NLAhunter]

I couldn't imagine running them running catch dogs here where we hunt it would be a night mare hell it might take 45 min or an hour to get around to our dogs they done went half mile they done crossed 3 creeks 3 of worst briar thickets know to man I don't care how good of a holder you got if he has a real good boar hog caught here for an hour before you get there he ain't going be alive no more. Everybody can hunt which ever style you like makes no difference to me either way it would be heck here trying to get to em if they got to far I met guy here he hunts on a club I am in he hunts straight bulldogs and dogos straight catch he catches some hogs but every year he has some bad wrecks to. Here them pretty much straight catch curs was just called rough cur dogs I just learned the term running catch dog when I started reading on here. I prefer them find em and keep em bayed till I get there type myself I hunt a couple that will get real rough on a hog trying to run and they will Bay a pig long as it sits there we hunt few that won't hardly put mouth on a hog bay a 10 lbs pig same way they bay a 400 lbs boar I can leave em bayed over there for 2-3 hours and don't have to worry about a murder scene when I get over there

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[t-dog]

As long as more than one man draws a breath on this earth, there are going to be 2 wrong ways and 2 right ways to do everything, lol. I see how offense could've been taken in black streaks writing. I also se the point of both guys here. I believe that certain types or styles are better suited for certain terrain, it's just common sense. I met a fella once that I had a difference of opinion with about bigger catch dogs. He is a dog man by my standards. He was judging a conformation show when I met him. I had some questions for him about the bigger dogs not placing in the show ring when he was done. I wasn't showing, I was actually in looking for new blood to freshen up with. I didn't find it there. Anyway, I didn't like what his opinion of the bigger dogs were at the time but I could see where he was coming from because it had been nearly impossible to find what I was looking for. Long story short, I invited him to come see and hunt with what I felt were the big dogs that he didn't feel existed. Many years later, he has a new respect for the big dogs and I have the same towards the smaller. He has become family to my whole family and even though he's about a 3 day drive away, if he needed something, he knows I'm a phone call away. Goose is right ( I tried not to write that too loud), find the time and go hunt. I don't have to be hostile. Hell, you might even like each other. You might learn something from each other too. As for one out dogs, I have another friend that had some cracker dogs here in Texas. His original old dog was a one out type. He hunted about 4-800 yards out solo and didn't bark when he found hogs. Depending on how you bred you could get the same thing or rough dogs that would bay until they had numbers on their side then catch. For different reasons, these weren't my type of dogs. He was feeding them and he liked them so they were good. They worked for him. I wouldn't have gotten along with them so I chose not to have them. We all have a flavor and sometimes after growing up on homemade vanilla we learn that we might like the chocolate too. Be smart and don't limit yourself.

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[Goose87]

As long as more than one man draws a breath on this earth, there are going to be 2 wrong ways and 2 right ways to do everything, lol. I see how offense could've been taken in black streaks writing. I also se the point of both guys here. I believe that certain types or styles are better suited for certain terrain, it's just common sense. I met a fella once that I had a difference of opinion with about bigger catch dogs. He is a dog man by my standards. He was judging a conformation show when I met him. I had some questions for him about the bigger dogs not placing in the show ring when he was done. I wasn't showing, I was actually in looking for new blood to freshen up with. I didn't find it there. Anyway, I didn't like what his opinion of the bigger dogs were at the time but I could see where he was coming from because it had been nearly impossible to find what I was looking for. Long story short, I invited him to come see and hunt with what I felt were the big dogs that he didn't feel existed. Many years later, he has a new respect for the big dogs and I have the same towards the smaller. He has become family to my whole family and even though he's about a 3 day drive away, if he needed something, he knows I'm a phone call away. Goose is right ( I tried not to write that too loud), find the time and go hunt. I don't have to be hostile. Hell, you might even like each other. You might learn something from each other too. As for one out dogs, I have another friend that had some cracker dogs here in Texas. His original old dog was a one out type. He hunted about 4-800 yards out solo and didn't bark when he found hogs. Depending on how you bred you could get the same thing or rough dogs that would bay until they had numbers on their side then catch. For different reasons, these weren't my type of dogs. He was feeding them and he liked them so they were good. They worked for him. I wouldn't have gotten along with them so I chose not to have them. We all have a flavor and sometimes after growing up on homemade vanilla we learn that we might like the chocolate too. Be smart and don't limit yourself.

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Better be careful T-Dog, folks PMs are going to be blowing up and they're going to be talking about you just like they do me, might even lose a little street cred just because you agreed with me lol...

[Judge peel]

I can’t stand when people pm you cause you don’t agree with them. And they talk like there Jesus Christ try to save you on the Jordan.


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