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« on: April 08, 2019, 07:12:04 pm » |
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I know this has come up before, but it seems like the forum has been a little dry lately and I always enjoy reading about the breedings behind dogs, as do others on here. A lot of y’all have dogs you call curs. I’m talking good line bred dogs that are proven dogs that you are breeding and constantly trying to improve. I’m curious as to what makes up the dogs? As in what breeds have you used to make them. Do you have straight BMC, or are you adding Plotts, Walkers, Pits, etc... let’s hear the background on them
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Jason Dunn
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2019, 07:56:48 pm » |
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The first real good dog I owned was a dog named Copper a friend gave me as a put he was half Catahoula half English looked a lot like a mountain cur hard hunting always busy and honest not a super nose but good I bred him to 3 good gyps a Red tick a Doebelly and a gyp latter pulled dna on was English BMC Greyhound mix . Me and my brother have 4 dogs that all go back to the male they all hunt about the same 500-600 yard loops usually further on the first cast and they will get deeper longer you stay all quiet till ones jumped then open but not like a full hound. They don't have super noses I think they can can take a few hour old track and do OK with it they work good where I hunt smaller dogs some black and tan some brindle I may eventually throw a full hound in the mix they hut best in pair's or maybe they have gotten used to hunting that way I don't get to hunt a lot so I try to carry them all when I go .
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Austesus
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2019, 08:03:53 pm » |
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Good looking dogs, and nice back story on them! Hopefully some others chime in and keep it going. I always enjoy hearing the background on everyone’s dogs
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Reuben
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2019, 08:59:18 pm » |
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Every dog I have has mountain cur in them...some have 50 percent Pocahontas PLOTT...I can rig them or cast them and road them once the edge is knocked off...the one with the most gold nugget kemmer stock Mt cur is still top dog when it comes to winding abilities and that is a well known trait with that line of dogs ...a few have Florida cur in them
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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t-dog
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2019, 10:22:08 pm » |
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My pot lickers are walker/cat cross with a splash of doughbelly in there. They usually hunt hard except when they don't. I like'em high and tight, fast on track, enough bite to turn one that wants to run but bay at the head. I do like a little stock sense to them. They need to have bottom, brains, and stay to eat my feed. I like an easy handling dog.They will come every color of the rainbow but mostly black/tan, black/brindle, Walker colored, or white with red, orange, yella, or brindle patches. They are quiet unless a hog breaks on them. 100 yards or less of sight of the hog and they are quiet again.
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Judge peel
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2019, 11:34:52 pm » |
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Mnt cur x Stock dog. I got some fl cur x cat they are very hardy dogs and multiple purpose dog. The mnt cur x stock hunt harder deeper and better bottom but the fl cur x cat I can hunt any where.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2019, 01:33:14 am » |
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the stock from when I was a kid was just catahoula, later on my uncle had a Australian Shepherd that he would take hog hunting with us sometimes and she was a natural at it just like she was with cows. So we crossed them, that's been around 25 years ago so until about 3 years ago that's all they had in them. I bought out a guy around 5 years ago and he had a silent go ahead plot in the bunch so I bred a bitch to him. They were already good dogs but I like even more what that put in them. If I live long enough later down the road I'm going to breed I little Kelpie in them and then I'm thru. My boys can keep it going like I've got it or they can change it up. The only negative thing I can say about the litter I got out of the plot is that if you come to a place were 3 hogs walked they're not necessarily going to take the hottest track which ever track they put they're nose in first is usually the one they are going to stay with. but usually what ever track they take they will Bay. And don't get me wrong the aren't slow mawling plot they are fast silent.
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Rough curs
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2019, 10:19:03 am » |
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Mnt cur pit cross to a Walker hound, then bread a gyp to a cat pit cross. Pretty much dogs with nose bottom drive and hate for a hog. Not the best by any means but get it done pretty regularly. Need to put some mnt cur or back in em and down the road. All different colors but looks are the same. Got a leopard I want to put in there somewhere haven't decided when or where,she's not suicidal but catches hard every time,with nose ,drive and handle. The mnt cur pit cross line has been around my parts for a while now,guy use to run bears and cats withem.
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t-dog
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2019, 03:08:55 pm » |
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Thank ya
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Austesus
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2019, 03:38:02 pm » |
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Good stuff guys, let’s see some pictures of what the end results are with the dogs on your yards now
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2019, 05:04:50 pm » |
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This yella dog is my number two dog she is a good grinder and will roll over and over if you don’t grab her.  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2019, 08:44:08 pm » |
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So after downloading tap talk to load pics ...now what . I'm not very electronic lol
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Austesus
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2019, 08:56:08 pm » |
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If you are on the app you just click the little plus button that is circled, next to where you’re typing, then click the little square with the two mountains at the bottom and attach your photos
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2019, 10:01:03 pm » |
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Mine are two different sets, my Shiloh gyp which is the mother to my Ben dog came along as an accident, my best friend Alex Shook is a yellow dog man and became friends with some boys from east Texas that are yeller fellers, well they had a gyp that was a good dog but wouldnt raise pups, so they tried to time the breeding out to put the pups on a surrogate, Shook bred his male Johnny which was a BMC to a Black and Tan coon hound, I got a gyp out of that litter and raised her up and my old male buck, which was BMC got in the pen with her one night and bred her, that accidental litter produced well, just about all those pups made decent to above average dogs, Shiloh came from that litter, I took Shiloh and bred her to a heavy line bred running walker and that's where Ben, Dolly, and Notty came from, those 3 are a little to much on the loose baying side for me so I took Ben back to his mother to put more bay in them, being as Shiloh will get down with it baying and bays like she's trying to smell what he had for supper right up in his face, I have 4 pups off that litter now about 4 weeks old...  Shiloh and Ben pups, 4 generations deep that I've owned and hunted...  Ben  Notty  Dolly on the right... |
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2019, 10:44:05 pm » |
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My other dogs are what I call my Rob dogs being as they're wrapped up in blood that Mr. Rob Hobgood brought into this part of the country, he never produced any pups himself being as he got out right after he finished and hunted his last set of dogs which he bought from Sam Mason and they were off his old Buster dog, there were two females and a male and they are what my dogs go back to, he never would breed the best female in that trio in fear that she wouldn't be the same caliber of dog once she had pups, all the dogs below are grand pups and great grand pups and so on of the other two that he bred...   This is my lil girl gyp, she's the cornerstone that I'm breeding these dogs around, she's one of the nicest dogs I've ever hunted with and the best I've ever owned, and she reproduces just as good as she produces pork, she goes back to the Sam Mason dogs and some local bred catahoula stock that originally came from Florida with a splash of Mt. Cur way back on and some local line bred stock curs bred that's crossed into the catahoula stock from Florida, her mother is what I'm actually trying to breed around more so, she was a great reproducer herself...  This is coal, she's a daughter of lil girl and my Smutt male, this is a special little huzzy right here, she has a nack for finding a hog and getting bayed and has just made some good dogs look flat silly, my father in law has a litter mate sister to her...  This is Brandy, she's also off Girl, and the same site as the 3 red dogs I posted earlier, this is her first season being hauled and she isn't missing a lick, she got butchered on Christmas Eve and we thought she was dead, she had a punctured chest cavity and I figured she wouldn't want to mess with a hog after that but it didn't phase her a bit...  Brandies litter mate that another good friend has, he has another gyp mate to them as well that I don't have pictures of, and I've got two more mates a male and female at my place that I don't have pictures of...  Smutt in the back and Coal in the front, Smutt and Lil girl are 2nd and 4th cousins on their topside and 4 cousins on bottom side... I got another female name Cleo I don't have a picture of that is off Lil Girl and Smutts grandfather.....  This is Lacy she is Girls first cousin and is the 5th generation I've bred raised and hunted, we have her bred to another first cousin to her, the males mother and Lacies sire were full siblings, and the sire to these pups is 1/2 the family blood, 1/4 catahoula Bay pen dog 1/4 July fox hound, the sire to the pups is a big clean framed dog that I'm hoping will clean the pups up some, I'm not a fan of her frame but I'll be danged if it don't work for her lol, this huzzy is FAST, she will flat blow the doors off most of our dogs but that's only when she's getting up on the hog in the scent funnel and really smelling it good but her downside is she can only run that hard for about 45- 1 hour and she's gassed, as long as she paces herself right she can push a track fast for a while, my father in law has a male that's off Lil Girls mother and this female sire, making him Lil Girls half brother/ 1st cousin, being as his sire and girls sire were full Brothers, Im going to breed to him this year...  This here is Daisy, she is Smutts first cousin and my Cleo gyps niece and Kin to all the other dogs above in some shape fashion or form within 5 generation or less, she's half running walker half the family blood, I have a male pup right now about 3 months old off Smutt and a close cousin on the walker side to this gyp... |
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2019, 10:57:24 pm » |
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 This is my butter bean gyp, she's full blooded running walker and I bred her to Cajuns old jack dog and have two pups I kept myself off that cross, I'm not sure what direction I'm going to go here and how going to utilize them in my breedings being as they're an F1 cross themselves and butter bean isn't any kin to any of the other walker blood I've used, the two I kept seem to have some excellent noses on them but aren't as fast as I'd like them to be on track, maybe that will come with mor experience...  Fritz...  Older picture of Kate... |
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2019, 09:42:38 am » |
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Those are sure nice dogs goose. I curious about how your 4 week old pups turn out. Have you shown them a hog yet?
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