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warrent423
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Re: To shoot or to catch, that is the question
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June 12, 2019, 03:03:20 am »
First off, any dog, whether cur or bulldog that grabs another dog is culled. I may give a young dog one chance and one chance only, but there is no second chance. Second, no self respecting hogman carries a gun on their person where I am from while in the woods. A pistol is kept on the buggy, boat, wheeler, or truck, depending on what we are hunting off or out of. The only reason that pistol is there is to either cull or have to put a dog down. We have always hunted with cur "catch" dogs. They are expected to do so. If you are too scared to grab one, you need to stay home. We eat the piss out of free range pork and would never kill and let lay. All hogs are either tied and brought out, cut and turned loose, or killed on the spot with a pocket knife and drug or quartered out. To each their own.
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jsh
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June 12, 2019, 05:05:31 am »
I don’t think anyone is talking about being scared to grab one. There are certain situations where a rifle comes in handy.
If you refuse to carry a gun then you either:
Don’t give a sh!t about your dogs in certain situations............or need to check your ego.
My dogs ain’t gonna let me die and I’m doing the same for them, period.
My opinion on this topic.
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Pwilson_10
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June 12, 2019, 06:45:40 am »
I love to shoot hogs cuz I like to go in and watch a bay my dogs sit way back and bay there is no touching for my dogs unless he try’s to slip out the back door lot of times I kill more then one in a rally and the hogs never break but I have some jam up catch dogs to that I love to use when other peoples dogs go with me
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Slim9797
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June 12, 2019, 10:06:23 am »
Quote from: Pwilson_10 on June 12, 2019, 06:45:40 am
I love to shoot hogs cuz I like to go in and watch a bay my dogs sit way back and bay there is no touching for my dogs unless he try’s to slip out the back door lot of times I kill more then one in a rally and the hogs never break but I have some jam up catch dogs to that I love to use when other peoples dogs go with me
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I have spent a few hours probably this year already just sitting and watching my dogs bay. My favorite part. I am a cur dog guy, I'm very opinionated when it comes to baying and what actual baying looks like vs. Fighting a hog or just barking at it so I like to get in there and watch and I can really appreciate when it looks like it should. We kill hogs off of our places because they affect our bottom line. I've got 4 places at the moment I hunt that have nothing to do with my source of income or that we don't have a hand in. I do not kill many hogs off these places. If they get to tearing stuff up bad enough land owner is calling I'll go bust them up and kill a few. But most of the time I just try to bay, especially if we bay some good hogs that want to stand right off the back. I try not to kill them, it's nice to have places with hogs like that to take puppies.
As far as being scared as mentioned above lmao, we can run your dogs and your bulldogs and I bet I'm flipping the hog waiting on you 9 times out of 10. Game as they come son, just don’t care to do it all the time. I work 60+ hours a week on my feet blowing and going. I hit the woods I want to relax.
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justincorbell
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June 12, 2019, 11:24:45 am »
Me and my buddy bayed, caught and then shot a stud last night and I ain't the least bit worried about what any of yall think about it
. We bayed him in a nasty little thicket and he decided to make a run for it, didnt go 40 yards and we got him caught him in a 3.5-4' deep ditch and got the dogs off of him pretty quick and got him killed asap to make sure my dogs were ok, one of em took a pretty good beating but he will live....... could we have tied him or stuck him with a knife? Yep we could have with no issue but the 45 long colt makes quick work of one when ya need it to. I would post pictures but my tapatalk app still isn't working correctly so I guess yall will just have to take my word for it
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Judge peel
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June 12, 2019, 11:37:45 am »
I don’t care bout carting a gun around. A blade will end it faster and safer. At the same time there are times a rifle can be handy. For as being scared on a hog you should have a touch of fear but not a bit of hesitation. If some one tells me they ain’t scared that almost 100% means they are. And they wouldn’t do it on there own alone in the dark 5 miles from the truck one dog caught on a big boar. Thats a ego giving you a false sense of safety
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l.h.cracker
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Re: To shoot or to catch, that is the question
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June 12, 2019, 12:13:13 pm »
Quote from: Slim9797 on June 12, 2019, 10:06:23 am
Quote from: Pwilson_10 on June 12, 2019, 06:45:40 am
I love to shoot hogs cuz I like to go in and watch a bay my dogs sit way back and bay there is no touching for my dogs unless he try’s to slip out the back door lot of times I kill more then one in a rally and the hogs never break but I have some jam up catch dogs to that I love to use when other peoples dogs go with me
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I have spent a few hours probably this year already just sitting and watching my dogs bay. My favorite part. I am a cur dog guy, I'm very opinionated when it comes to baying and what actual baying looks like vs. Fighting a hog or just barking at it so I like to get in there and watch and I can really appreciate when it looks like it should. We kill hogs off of our places because they affect our bottom line. I've got 4 places at the moment I hunt that have nothing to do with my source of income or that we don't have a hand in. I do not kill many hogs off these places. If they get to tearing stuff up bad enough land owner is calling I'll go bust them up and kill a few. But most of the time I just try to bay, especially if we bay some good hogs that want to stand right off the back. I try not to kill them, it's nice to have places with hogs like that to take puppies.
As far as being scared as mentioned above lmao, we can run your dogs and your bulldogs and I bet I'm flipping the hog waiting on you 9 times out of 10. Game as they come son, just don’t care to do it all the time. I work 60+ hours a week on my feet blowing and going. I hit the woods I want to relax.
LMAO You sure are a cocky sun of a gun Slim I'll give that to ya Son.
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Slim9797
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Re: To shoot or to catch, that is the question
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June 12, 2019, 12:39:30 pm »
Quote from: l.h.cracker on June 12, 2019, 12:13:13 pm
Quote from: Slim9797 on June 12, 2019, 10:06:23 am
Quote from: Pwilson_10 on June 12, 2019, 06:45:40 am
I love to shoot hogs cuz I like to go in and watch a bay my dogs sit way back and bay there is no touching for my dogs unless he try’s to slip out the back door lot of times I kill more then one in a rally and the hogs never break but I have some jam up catch dogs to that I love to use when other peoples dogs go with me
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I have spent a few hours probably this year already just sitting and watching my dogs bay. My favorite part. I am a cur dog guy, I'm very opinionated when it comes to baying and what actual baying looks like vs. Fighting a hog or just barking at it so I like to get in there and watch and I can really appreciate when it looks like it should. We kill hogs off of our places because they affect our bottom line. I've got 4 places at the moment I hunt that have nothing to do with my source of income or that we don't have a hand in. I do not kill many hogs off these places. If they get to tearing stuff up bad enough land owner is calling I'll go bust them up and kill a few. But most of the time I just try to bay, especially if we bay some good hogs that want to stand right off the back. I try not to kill them, it's nice to have places with hogs like that to take puppies.
As far as being scared as mentioned above lmao, we can run your dogs and your bulldogs and I bet I'm flipping the hog waiting on you 9 times out of 10. Game as they come son, just don’t care to do it all the time. I work 60+ hours a week on my feet blowing and going. I hit the woods I want to relax.
LMAO You sure are a cocky sun of a gun Slim I'll give that to ya Son.
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Me narrow ass being quicker through the brush than somebody probably close to 2x my age with with probably a few pounds on me. That’s less cocky and more like science. But I still put it on the boys my age too
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TShelly
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Re: To shoot or to catch, that is the question
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June 12, 2019, 12:58:03 pm »
Shot a barr hog one time over my dogs but we have never been about that life. My first few years I was lucky to carry even a knife. Threw 4 or 5 tie ropes on and went to them. We would cut anything that needed it after the hunts.
Lots of reasons I never was a gun hunter... you can’t see number 2 in most of the places we hunt east of I-45. Even when you go west it gets tough to get in there and get them in some thickets.
A lot of the old dogs I started with would hit the trailer with the first gun shot fired.
The legality of ending up somewhere you weren’t supposed to be with a firearm never sat well with me.
Guys I grew up hunting with and some I still hunt with don’t like killing hogs. Lots of old school, turn the sows loose and cut the boars. I honestly could care less anymore about not killing hogs... if we can cut a boar hog Im all about it but I’ve shanked and killed more than I’ve tied in the last 5 years.
I like knowing the fact that we can go do whatever we want with the same set of dogs. If we want to go tie 30-40 hogs and put them in the trailer we can. If we want to go shoot them, we can do that too. I do think it’s harder and more work to go catch and tie 30 hogs vs shooting 30 hogs over your dogs but that’s pretty self explanatory.
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TShelly
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June 12, 2019, 03:02:01 pm »
I don’t think one way or the other leads to better dogs. I know a guy that shoots most everything and he has some sure enough great dogs. A good dog is going to be a good dog regardless of the situation you put them in.
I know I could surely get spoiled on riding up to the dogs and busting a cap in one. I find myself less and less enthused to to go tie one lol.
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Black Streak
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June 12, 2019, 03:50:00 pm »
I carry a pistol with me most times. Over the years I've had multiple occasions where another pig will come to the aid of the one that is caught and hit the dog and rip it off leaving a pretty good gash on the back half of the dog. Hard to stop that in the woods but I've been able to on a few occasions on the crop fields. I believe that very thing to be the biggest threat to hunting the type dogs the way i do. I've seen the dogs do this and get knocked off a couple times by the group and then gain a little respect for the confrontational group and just try to sort off a single and catch it away from the group only to have the group again rush to the aid of the caught pig. This sucks in the woods cause your running into the mob in defense of your dog that is caught or doing his best to stay caught and stay alive. You put the heart into a catch dog to tolerate that kinda abuse, then i feel you yourself need the sort of heart that compliments that kinda dog. If I had my father's, I'd rather run through that mess with a pistol in my hand. The noise of a couple shots helps panic the aggressive group and send them on their way so the dog and you can get about your business. Plus if your daughter is with you or someone whom wants to experience a little pig dogging action for the first time with you, I believe the noise from the pistol would greatly help you keep them safe. Some people have the courage to follow me even into that if it ever occurred when they were with me but they also believe I would protect them and I certainly would. A pistol would help me keep safe those who are depending on me to do so.
Main reason I usually carry a pistol isn't either of these cases though. Lot of people off their rocker doing risky things they themselves will take up arms to defend or silence you over. I'd rather be armed and be able to defend myself so I could escape a bad situation rather than being overcome by the situation. I firearm might be a handy thing to have one day when you least expect it in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere.
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Goose87
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June 12, 2019, 09:46:28 pm »
Quote from: TShelly on June 12, 2019, 12:58:03 pm
Shot a barr hog one time over my dogs but we have never been about that life. My first few years I was lucky to carry even a knife. Threw 4 or 5 tie ropes on and went to them. We would cut anything that needed it after the hunts.
Lots of reasons I never was a gun hunter... you can’t see number 2 in most of the places we hunt east of I-45. Even when you go west it gets tough to get in there and get them in some thickets.
A lot of the old dogs I started with would hit the trailer with the first gun shot fired.
The legality of ending up somewhere you weren’t supposed to be with a firearm never sat well with me.
Guys I grew up hunting with and some I still hunt with don’t like killing hogs. Lots of old school, turn the sows loose and cut the boars. I honestly could care less anymore about not killing hogs... if we can cut a boar hog Im all about it but I’ve shanked and killed more than I’ve tied in the last 5 years.
I like knowing the fact that we can go do whatever we want with the same set of dogs. If we want to go tie 30-40 hogs and put them in the trailer we can. If we want to go shoot them, we can do that too. I do think it’s harder and more work to go catch and tie 30 hogs vs shooting 30 hogs over your dogs but that’s pretty self explanatory.
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In most of the places we bay, a gnat has trouble getting through, you can’t see a thing until you leg the hog, and in the places where you can see the bay, very seldom is the hog or hogs going to stand, once they see or smell you or even hear you coming, and dang ain’t going to stay anywhere around if you get to yelling dogs back....
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Quote from: Judge peel on June 12, 2019, 11:37:45 am
I don’t care bout carting a gun around. A blade will end it faster and safer. At the same time there are times a rifle can be handy. For as being scared on a hog you should have a touch of fear but not a bit of hesitation. If some one tells me they ain’t scared that almost 100% means they are. And they wouldn’t do it on there own alone in the dark 5 miles from the truck one dog caught on a big boar. Thats a ego giving you a false sense of safety
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If I didn’t get my nerves worked up from time to time then I probably wouldn’t be hog hunting, besides the dogs and the dog work that’s the main reason I do it, for the moments that scare me and get my adrenaline going, call me macho or label me as the big bad hog hunter as some like to do, I don’t care, I like the fight of it, I could careless about the smaller hogs, there’s usually somebody with me that’s eager to catch a hog, but when I know it’s a good one, I’m on my game, that’s when it gets fun to me, everywhere I go I carry a rifle of some sort in the truck and most of the time there’s a handgun or few tucked under the seats or stashed in the tool box, or glove box or somewhere, I’ve gotten myself in some bad binds and sticky situations before hunting by myself, I’ve always told myself after those encounters that I was going to start toting a pistol but never do and still strike out with a length of string in my back pocket and some string hobbles around my neck and a pocket knife, I just don’t like the fact of toting a handgun and it hanging up, an old man that’s a great friend of mine that lives up in north La, shot himself in the calf muscle with a .410 pistol bc it got hung up in brush, I know the pros of toting severely outweigh the cons, I guess I feel safe enough knowing there’s a firearm not far away in one vehicle or the other, I have been throwing the idea around about getting me one of those KelTechs, I think they’re name is, in a .22 mag, my boss has one just to carry in the woods for whatever and I love that thing and the way it shoots and he has a sleek, discreet holster for it and buddy of mine made that’s an arms dealer...
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