The long range catch dog

[Reuben]

Lol Pretty Much Sums You up Ol Blackstreak.

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If you read blackstreaks past posts and threads you will see that anyone who has a different opinion than his is wrong and he will lecture you on why you are wrong. Usually he will be very rude about it especially if you disagree even though we all know this website should be about sharing knowledge and opinions…
I will venture out to say that blackstreak is very intelligent and perceptive and at the same time he is delusional about many things…

For instance…I see is that his dogs catch all the hogs in the open…when he said in the woods the pictures were all in the open again…natural woods can be open but cutovers in the woods can be very thick…and in those type ofwoods we usually need hogs dogs that have hound, mt cur or hound crosses, or curs that have been bred for hunting that are willing to track in those woods for hours if needed…

Long range catch dogs…of course out in the open with thermal vision and with the right wind conditions most any hog dog can wind a long ways and with little training the dog will learn the concept…but if a hog runs out in front of you and it is thick woods in a big place where the hogs are dog smart I do not think these dogs will work…I could and can tell you why but of course I will be told I am wrong…
Right now the only dog I see in his pack that catches solid is the red dog…he looks to have red nose pit somewhere in the woodpile which is fine with me…just saying.
I do not see how the red dog can breed true…it takes generations when starting from scratch…then everyone involved must have the same mindset to breed such a dog in a consistent manner…not saying it isn’t doable at all but it will be a challenge…there will be many culls and the challenge will be in keeping the right ones…
The boar hounds…which are fancy words for Great Danes…for several hundred years in general, these dogs have been bred as pets or show dogs…so breeding the ultimate hog dog from these dogs is like winning the lotto…
I have already had my discussions with blackstreak and will not do so again because I figured out a long time ago he is a narcissist and also seems to have psychopathic tendencies as well…
I do not understand why there are those that support this behavior…and those that go up against the blackstreak are up against someone who probably does not have empathy towards others to put it mildly…
On a good note…blackstreak is trying to act better…his writings are not as rude as they have been in the past…the problem is that it doesn’t come natural to him…but at least he is working on it…

[Bowtech99]

This has been a good read

[l.h.cracker]

My old thunder dog, the stag I used to have that lit Georgia on fire for stags.

Lmao You Sir are truly in your own world.They been using Stags and Stag crosses in Ga for crop work for 50 yrs lol.Why do you think your the first to do this stuff these crossed up big running catch dogs have been around forever WAY BEFORE YOU FOUND THEM.

LH and blackstreak see if y’all are up for a few questions. How long have you been hunting?
Where did your bloodline of dogs come from? Family,friends or did you buy?

This was why I commented not a pissin match.I am just tired of reading the same old stuff from blackstreak.He truly believes he has invented this stuff that's been around forever in many parts of the country.The Dogs are not new the styles not new just new to him.That was all I was saying.

I have been around working dogs my entire life my great grandfather had a beef and pork production style ranch including slaughter and packing facilities he used dogs for the work.I got into hog hunting about 7 yrs ago.I admit I was a FOOL to begin with and believed I had good dogs until I saw a true quality dog work.At first I ran a pack of alligators with very little self preservation or brains.Cambell Curs from Ga basically bird bull cross and FL dogs but not anything like the ones I hunt and breed now.I then obtained a cracker gyp from a friend from a quality line of dogs that have bred right and culled hard for countless generations she showed me what a quality dog was before she died she is still the best hog dog I've ever been behind hands down.If there was a hog in the area she found it and when she found you caught it whether it was right there or 8hrs later she had more heart ,sense and guts than anything I have seen.She knew when to bay and when to catch and never really suffered any damage.Luckily I bred her before I lost her to a gator to another phenom type dog from another ranch family down here with the same type of standards and got what I have now since then I have also obtained her sister and have breeding rights to her grandfather I have a son and daughter of hers that are making great dogs and even have some of her grandpups in the yard as well right now all my dogs are related from these old old lines of crackers and I wouldn't trade them for the world.They wind and trail extremely well and know when to catch and when to back up.If I send them on a hog and they know I'm right there its caught if they're 2 miles away they bay till I show up. I use a bulldog because I like bulldogs and feel this takes a lot of risk off my dogs therefore extending their careers.Do I use them one out no I do not and don't feel the need to just to prove a point.I enjoy hunting the way I do and more importantly I love my dogs and that's all that really matters I reckon.

[t-dog]

Cracker, were the dogs you bred your gyp to and the gyp both crackers or completely in related? Just curious, it doesn't matter either way. I guess I was trying to figure out what your hybrid vigor might be like crossing 2 line bred families. 2 line bred dogs out of 2 different sides of the same family of dogs would likely yield a different result than 2 line bred dogs out of completely unrelated families.

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[l.h.cracker]

T-Dog they were two unrelated families of line bred Cracker Curs.Although I do suspect the two Ranches did a little crossing back and to over the years.The Mommas side is extremely tight bred and after talking with the men who have had these dogs for many generations they felt an outcross to the male I chose was a smart move.

[t-dog]

Sounds like a good cross. You were lucky to get something like that.

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[Reuben]

Casey,
I remember the pictures of that female you were so high on...she was a looker and I offered to buy her from you...lol...I knew it was a long shot

[t-dog]

What color are your dogs? The crackers I've seen were black/tan or red.

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[l.h.cracker]

They throw black and tans ,yellas and Reds.My next two breedings are Hambone who is my 1/2 outcross to his Aunt Rye Who is Holly's sister and pure on his momma Holly's line .Then His Sister Ginger same 1/2 outcross to her Granddaddy who is also pure on Holly and Ryes same side.

[t-dog]

Sounds like smart breeding

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[Goose87]

Cracker what side do you think contributed the most to your Holly dog being of that caliber, was she more like her mother or father?

[Reuben]

They throw black and tans ,yellas and Reds.My next two breedings are Hambone who is my 1/2 outcross to his Aunt Rye Who is Holly's sister and pure on his momma Holly's line .Then His Sister Ginger same 1/2 outcross to her Granddaddy who is also pure on Holly and Ryes same side.

It’s a great plan...

[RafterbarK]

Nice. What ranches in Florida did they come off of LH?

[l.h.cracker]

Her Mother ,Her Grandmother and Her Great Grandmother were all The Best dogs ever owned by the three different gentlemen who owned them.Her Grandfather  and 2 of her uncles I knew of were as good as they get as well.All very similar in styles and ability.Trail and wind dogs naturally relay tons of sense.Her Daddy was a super fast really rough dog and a physical specimen but definitely not the dog her momma is.

[l.h.cracker]

I'm not really comfortable dropping their names on the internet as I am not the one responsible for these dogs I was just fortunate enough to get ahold of the right ones and roll with it for my own hunting I have not sold any and only placed them with close hunting friends where I can keep tabs and breed back to if necessary and that's what I plan on doing for the rest of my days.We try to do the same with our bulldogs as well trying to gain traction with stable well built catchdogs.

[Goose87]

Her Mother ,Her Grandmother and Her Great Grandmother were all The Best dogs ever owned by the three different gentlemen who owned them.Her Grandfather  and 2 of her uncles I knew of were as good as they get as well.All very similar in styles and ability.Trail and wind dogs naturally relay tons of sense.Her Daddy was a super fast really rough dog and a physical specimen but definitely not the dog her momma is.

Stacking that strong female line, smart moves and setting yourself up for good producers in the brood box and bushes...

[Bowtech99]

Cracked, do you have some pictures of your current pack at least? They sound like they are exceptional dogs.