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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2019, 03:15:43 pm »

I agree muddy. Glad you didn't delete again lol

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2019, 06:33:00 pm »

You learn the true quality of what your feeding when you drop them alone. More dogs would be culled if we demanded they do it alone consistently. It requires a confident dog to consistently find & stop hogs alone. No blaming other dogs for busting bays. Nowhere to hide. Faults become apparent. Most of us prefer pack hunting due to limited hunt time. 2 to 4 dogs working together have a better chance of stopping/baying hogs. How many of us regularly load 1 bay dog and 1 catch dog and go catch consistently? I’ve done it with inconsistent results. I think mee tooing is more of a handling/man made problem due to our preferred tactics. The one out approach is very difficult with educated dog wise hogs.

Agree 100% with Cajunl that starting young dogs alone is the best way to make independent dogs. It works very well if the dog is naturally confident & independent. I know a couple guys who live out in the country and let their pups run loose. These pups usually start themselves. These guys won’t mess with them if they don’t start on their own by 7 or 8 months old. It’s a nice set of circumstances. I wish I had the time and places with enough hogs to do it this way.
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Joshg - our situations sound similar. Both of my bay dogs will find and bay hogs alone when dropped alone IF I get them into sign pretty quick. They don’t hunt nearly as hard alone if it gets tough.
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I accept some of the blame for this. I don’t get to hunt as much as I would like. I don’t have real big places full of hogs either. I catch myself dropping them both too much particularly when it’s hot and I only have a few hours to hunt. I think both dogs would get better hunting alone if I asked them to do it more often or if I had started them alone. None of my dogs are good enough to breed.


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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2019, 07:17:29 pm »

That's pretty dang honest shotgun. You've gotta prioritize better though. Quit working and you'll have more time to hunt, lol

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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2019, 07:44:03 pm »

I have known a few guys that had a pack of dogs each that thought their dogs were the  best when in fact they only had one or two...what they really had was one or 2 good dogs and a bunch of me two dogs...we must be honest with ourselves and call it exactly as it really is...

Doing the right things at the right times goes a long ways in making better dogs or just finding out what we really have...
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2019, 06:41:46 pm »

You know I have had a few dogs that weren’t the best every time and didn’t rival the best dog but would bay up over a lot of dogs in front of so called better dogs and behind so called better dogs. And I am sure most of y’all have to.  So I will go back to what I said before if a dog can out do another it will I want to know what dog would knowingly run past a hog to find another hog just don’t make since to me just saying. All the dog I have ever had went to the first hog around or at least the first they knew was around


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« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2019, 07:46:21 pm »

Judge...the good dogs will find hogs in front if turned out together...and behind those that went before...most every time...either they have it or don’t...
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« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2019, 09:28:24 pm »

That’s pretty much what I just said


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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2019, 06:26:00 pm »

That’s pretty much what I just said


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Yes you did but I was more or less saying that these type of dogs do it most every time...most good dogs don’t have bad day but they can have better days...
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