Who bred your dogs?

[RafterbarK]

In the past 5 years have you purchased your dogs or were they off of your own stock?

[t-dog]

I've raised my own for over 20 years. Started with a cross and have been line breeding since.

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[Bowtech99]

I've bought most of my dogs. My catahoula gyp just came in and hopefully breeding to my hunting partners Mtn. Cur. So hopefully that will be the start of my own line.

Both dogs hunt and have great attributes. I've always wanted my own line of dogs and finally have a good pair to start with.

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[Austesus]

I’ve only bought dogs, but I hope to change that soon. I have tried to learn as much as I can from people on this board, and try to be a student of dogs and hunting. My end goal is to breed a line of dogs that work for me and the few people I hunt with. My two pups I have now are the only line bred dogs I’ve ever had so I’m hoping that they will be a good foundation for me to start with.


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[Bowtech99]

My Gyp

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[TheRednose]

Nice looking bitch Bowtech

[Bowtech99]

Thanks @TheRednose, hopefully she'll take, her heats have been elusive. Barely any signs she comes in but a little spotting. Fingers crossed.

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[Mike]

I’ve been line breeding mine for 10 years now... 6 generations down from the two I started with.

[RafterbarK]

Mike with that being said do you think that if someone got a pup off your dogs and a pup off some dogs down the road and cross them that you would consider them that persons "bloodline"? I feel there is alot of this "thats my bloodline " of dogs going around just because they've bred a pair of dogs.

[Mike]

No, I don’t think a one time cross is considered a bloodline. I’m really not even sure qualifies a set of dogs being considered a person’s bloodline.

[t-dog]

Rafterbark I want to hear his thoughts on that too. I personally don't think that in that situation the person can say they have a "Bloodline". They have dogs that aren't line bred. If they start lone breeding those dogs then yes in a couple generations they could say it. But if they keep breeding those dogs but not line breeding, then all they have are scatter bred dogs. It doesn't matter if they were even registered dogs. If they aren't related then they are still scatter bred. "Bloodline" suggests gene potency. It means dogs that come with uniformity and consistency in a multitude of areas because the genes were isolated or intentional selected. That is EXTREMELY hard to do when you breed unrelated dogs. If they get 2 dogs that are related, line bred and raise a litter then again, they have dogs. It's a bloodline but it is a bloodline that they have but not their bloodline. In a couple generations down the road it becomes theirs. The dogs likely start changing in a couple generations for several possible reasons unless the original breeder is having an influence in it. JMO! Most of the folks you are speaking of either don't know the difference because of lack of experience or they are glory hounds. I personally don't care if someone tells people that the dogs they got from me are their bloodline. Mainly because those types are gonna screw them up pretty quick and it's better if everyone thinks they were theirs and my mutts aren't reflected upon negatively. Again JMO

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[RafterbarK]

I agree. Its seems that because you cross a dog up and even breed some of the pups off that litter people are considering it their bloodline. No its a cross that you did on your yard is all.

[RafterbarK]

t-dog  this statement right here is GOLD. " JMO! Most of the folks you are speaking of either don't know the difference because of lack of experience or they are glory hounds"

[The Old Man]

Not written as a rule anywhere but generally accepted that 3 gens after the initial outcross without any more outside influence would be a line or your strain of dogs. Not sure there even is a true definition.    I do agree with you guys that just because you raised pups at your house that they would be considered "your" "line" of dogs. They would just be dogs you had bred and raised and potentially could be where your "line" of dogs started.

[Reuben]

He is a real scenario and I have seen it more than a few times...someone is advertising a line of registered dogs and has a kennel name...they will have 20 or more dogs at any given time...and when inquiring we find out they have 4 or 5 different bloodlines and it is normal for them to sell pups never really intending to create their own line it seems...we see the kennel name and we assume it is a strain or bloodline...

Another scenario and using a fictitious famous kennel name...

Joe Lyon passes away 25 years ago and he developed a superior line of cur dogs and they were known as the Lyonheart  curs...he had that line of dogs for 40 years and 25 years after joe lyons passed away many folks will say they have the lyonheart cur bloodline...

There may be some dogs out there that are excellent lyonheart dogs and there just might be someone who took that bloodline and took it to a higher level...

But day in and day out many claiming that they have the bloodline in reality have it watered down...Joe Lyons was well known for a reason...he had an eye for a dog that had all the qualities of a great hunting dog and only bred the very best...he also had a knack for selecting the right pups and he put a lot of time and effort in producing the very best...

I also believe three generations of solid hunting dogs...dogs that are related and produce good hunting dogs...

[justincorbell]

I do and have bred my own for quite sometime now but I don't believe that they will ever really be my own line as I have not made any out-crossess that I have bred back into the original line that I started with....at least not yet, we have 1 male dog still alive out of an outcross I made a few years back, lord willing he will stay that way until i can get him bred back into this line as he and both of his brothers were/are all above average hunters. While I have done the breeding and raising of what I have I am more of an extension of the man I originally got em froms yard...... if it ain't broke  dont fix it 

[Stanton]

I have been lucky enough to have a kennel full of dogs that I have bred and raised. I have been line breeding for the last 10 years. Part of my dogs lineage goes back to some dogs from Louisiana about 15 years ago and the rest from Georgia about 20 years ago. Both lines where already line bred. Was lucky enough to put the dogs together and have some excellent litters thru the years. They are not registered(although they could be). I don’t need papers to tell me what they are or where they came from. I don’t buy and sell dogs and don’t care to. When $$$ gets involved people tend to lose sight and focus of the quality and enjoyment of the process. Even though it’s an expensive part of my life, I try not to let money determine my actions and decisions with the dogs. Buying and selling dogs takes something away. Even though I bought my little girl a plott hound puppy last year and she does good in the woods. My little girl loves dogs but wanted one with long ears

[t-dog]

What are your dogs Stanton, breed wise that is?

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[Stanton]

Catahoula. But don’t let the spots fool you. They aren’t baypen dogs

[NLAhunter]

Stanton just curious where or who your dogs come from in la

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