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« on: February 25, 2020, 11:06:12 am »

I always here guys saying there is a 500 or a 550 lb hog they saw on their property. Ive been doing this 15 yrs and have caught 2 hand fullsl of 300 lb + hogs, and know of 1 405 lb hog my buddy caught bc he got a scale on it and i think i killed one other 400 lb hog but couldnt get it out of the woods to weigh it and know for sure but thats it in 15 yrs 1 maybe 2 400 lb hogs.

My ?? is other than the extremely rare occurrence I dont think there are many wild hogs (not fed out and released) in the wild, what say yall??

I think the guys saying it just dont know what there talking about
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2020, 12:35:24 pm »

Most people that don’t know any better think 250-300 lb hogs weigh 500 or 600 haha!
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2020, 12:50:06 pm »

Agreed! All these guys on their deer leases think they know it all lol
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2020, 01:41:50 pm »

Takes a lot of meat on a hog to make 300+ lbs, much less 400 lbs.  Most deer hunters or people period haven’t put enough on the scales to really be able to judge accurately.

With that said though, I’ve seen a 432 and 470 Barr tied this year, a 350 lb boar that had a bigger frame then both of them, and have a game cam pic of one that should beat the 470. Just been a good year for em I reckon.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2020, 02:58:56 pm »

Trail cameras get everyone - esp deer hunters including me!  Most folks get a picture of a good buck and guess him to be 20-35 inches bigger than he really is - hunted a buck couple years ago and killed him- had several pics of him- when I put my hands on him It was lil discouraging- same for a  hog weight

Honestly tho I am fortunate enough to be in that 500 club but just once - been in the 400s 3 times and In 300s a good bit - but we got lotta farms that grow lotta good stuff for them hogs to grow -
The few hogs that were 4 to 5 were Barr’s
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I know of a few boys that have hunted longer than me and they are bout the same in numbers on weights

Most folks that don’t hog hunt don’t know how to judge weight of a hog and heck lotta hog hunters don’t either - they can fool ya - they have me

We use to all put 20 dollars in a hat to see who is closest to hog weight - it gets funny like that lol


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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 03:28:48 pm »

Man ,,,  I sure wish I had some that weight in the areas I hunt,,,,  they cant eat enuff pine needles to get there though...lol  I might not have to run a 400 pder for 3 freakin miles either....
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2020, 03:49:38 pm »

Man ,,,  I sure wish I had some that weight in the areas I hunt,,,,  they cant eat enuff pine needles to get there though...lol  I might not have to run a 400 pder for 3 freakin miles either....

It’s the deer hunters buddy. They like to cut off hunting on them leases for a couple years because we scare the deer off and hogs are easy to kill. Fast forward a few years and all they’ve done is corn fed hogs they cant kill for a few years from a stand, and hog dogs are the answer again.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2020, 07:28:54 pm »

Well...back in the late 1980s I saw a big boar hog come running out of a maize field...solid red and he didn’t look like a barnyard hog...I will say he was close to 800 pounds but to make it more believable I will say he weighed right at 700 lbs... when he came out running he was running in a crouched position...his belly was skimming the ground...he was smart enough to crouch when running because he knew to crouch low not to be seen in the brush...if I had not seen this hog I would have thought his track was a cow track...

Driving down the road I have seen a few big ones maybe 400 lbs and have caught a couple close to 400 pounds in almost 40 years of running dogs...
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2020, 08:13:06 pm »

Man ,,,  I sure wish I had some that weight in the areas I hunt,,,,  they cant eat enuff pine needles to get there though...lol  I might not have to run a 400 pder for 3 freakin miles either....

It’s the deer hunters buddy. They like to cut off hunting on them leases for a couple years because we scare the deer off and hogs are easy to kill. Fast forward a few years and all they’ve done is corn fed hogs they cant kill for a few years from a stand, and hog dogs are the answer again.

Yeah Ben.   We go all over and when I show people sometimes the pics I keep on my phone from our cell phone cameras that shows the dogs on camera in one pic and in 4 hrs later there’s a 8 pt eatin in the same corn pile that the dogs just got casted in.   It puzzles them. Lol.  U try and show em different from what they have been told about dogs harassing the deer.  Some have been brain washed to think that the bucks are gonna run outta the country at the sound of a dog bark.   If they don’t learn no different I guess they can keep on feeding the same boar hog all deer season cause he’ll sure stay there and eat all they can throw out.   
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2020, 08:28:13 pm »

Hogs just don't get that big here, around close to home. There isn't a whole lot of boars that break 250, and when you catch one in the 300-350 range it is really rare. Since I could miss a chicken by 20 lbs. I weigh them if I want to know their true weight haha.
 I did bay solid twice in one night-one that I was sure would make 400, solid Russian colored, ivory galore, a true trophy, and at the time I had a little sorry "give-me" Bulldog that missed him both times, once a good clear shot from 15 yards the other was in a sprout thicket and I was so close I could have spit on him but still couldn't see him. She was one that wanted to catch on the snout at the very end of the nose and lots of hogs saw her coming and turned her a flip, it is a wonder this big hog didn't cut her head off, and she was cut in the neck on the first attempt but not bad. I was sick but hey you get what you earn and there wasn't anyone preventing me from having a quality catchdog but me haha. That was a long time ago and I haven't saw one in the woods that was his equal yet.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2020, 08:59:21 pm »

I think most people judge them wrong. They’re out there, but really rare (around me). Biggest I’ve killed was right at 400lbs, a big boar. The only other real big one was an old boar that was between 325-350lbs (just a guess). I’ve also estimated some to be bigger than they actually were on the scale. Biggest I know of around here was a 480lb boar my buddy killed a few years back, it was a known dog killer. He’s had several good ones that were dog killers that he started looking for every time he’d hunt those properties. He had another one that he guessed to be a 500lb sow. He never caught her. She killed 5-10 dogs over a few month period by smashing them in to trees and hitting them hard enough to cause internal damage and broke several dogs necks. As far as I know she disappeared.


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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2020, 09:19:29 pm »

The big boar I saw was in a place where big hogs have been killed or seen...down southwest of Victoria, TX...for being such a big hog he could really move...

matter of fact the farmer planted about 75 acres in the middle of the woods for the wild hogs...the idea was to keep the hogs out of the main fields and in the small field...
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2020, 09:39:54 pm »

Reuben, one of my farmers had a spot on the other side of the paved road that was off limits to us. The idea was to keep the pressure of the good crops and have that smaller area as the pigs safe haven. To an extent it worked with keeping pigs out of his corn. He would put a bunch of strawberry flavored bait at the other spot to keep the pigs over there.


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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2020, 06:27:46 am »

In almost 30 yrs I've caught a couple 4+ and several 3+, scale weights. They aren't the norm. We have quite a few bigger hogs around here, good food sources and plenty water usually with lots of cover. Fear and adrenaline are miracle grow to eyes of the beholder, lol. More times than not when someone says they saw or caught some monstrous hog, I knock atleast 100 pounds or more off in my mind. Too many times folks have seen hogs we've caught and say oh my gosh that sucker must weigh 3, 4, or 5 pounds when in fact its 225 or 250. The biggest I've actually seen and know for 100% what his actual weight was, a buddy of mine shot laying in mud hole with another boar. He didn't realize how big he was at the time. He weighed out at 601. He was massive and red. His ears were erect but as big as my 2 hands together. His pride and joy looked like 2 volley balls and a track like a cow. He said the black boar that tan off had to 4 if this one weighed 6. I've hunted that property numerous times before he shot that hog and never saw him. I might have seen his track and wrote it off for a cow track but that goes to show just because you haven't seen them don't mean they aren't there.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2020, 09:07:46 am »

I have caught my share of big hogs but any thing over 300 is rare unless there sitting on a protein feeder or a unchecked grain fields. I did bay one that I watched for 10 min from the top of a creek wash out that I figured was 450 he tossed my dogs like rag dolls then took off they gave him a run but never did stop him.


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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2020, 09:43:11 am »

Somebody I don't know tells me a weight, I'm cutting it in half right off the rip Grin  A "true" 300+lb  wild hog, in the woods, is a rare specimen.
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2020, 09:43:39 am »

6 years in I’ve been there for one hog over 300. He was a Barr. Killed a 283 lb boar right before him that we actually weighed so Barr weight wasn’t official but we all agreed he was much bigger than the boar. Other than that I’ve killed one other 286 boar and few hogs between 230-250. There was many a 300+ killed right around my home town back in the day. These days I rarely hear of a big hog around fayette county. I think them big hogs are a kind of a perfect accident and I don’t believe your average wild hog has the genetics to get to 300 much less 400. Barr hog been in our high fence please down here in south Texas for Atleast 7 years. 7 years of year round access to protein feeders, he may be 300-320. Don’t see him being much bigger than that and he sure ain’t been starving

Hog In back is the Barr. Hog in front is boar, probably 200-215. I know that from having him bayed dead to rights.




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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2020, 01:10:43 pm »

Biggest hog I got a pic of and never caught


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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2020, 07:09:21 pm »

In almost 30 yrs I've caught a couple 4+ and several 3+, scale weights. They aren't the norm. We have quite a few bigger hogs around here, good food sources and plenty water usually with lots of cover. Fear and adrenaline are miracle grow to eyes of the beholder, lol. More times than not when someone says they saw or caught some monstrous hog, I knock atleast 100 pounds or more off in my mind. Too many times folks have seen hogs we've caught and say oh my gosh that sucker must weigh 3, 4, or 5 pounds when in fact its 225 or 250. The biggest I've actually seen and know for 100% what his actual weight was, a buddy of mine shot laying in mud hole with another boar. He didn't realize how big he was at the time. He weighed out at 601. He was massive and red. His ears were erect but as big as my 2 hands together. His pride and joy looked like 2 volley balls and a track like a cow. He said the black boar that tan off had to 4 if this one weighed 6. I've hunted that property numerous times before he shot that hog and never saw him. I might have seen his track and wrote it off for a cow track but that goes to show just because you haven't seen them don't mean they aren't there.

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That big hog I saw had small erect ears and he was no slouch...he was fast for a hog his size...

I have seen wild hogs that were so big they waddled along and had flop ears...this hog was impressive...at that time I didn’t have the dog power I had a few years later...I carry a 22 mag at times and I don’t think it would have taken him down unless it was a well placed bullet...
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2020, 08:03:56 pm »

I’ve broke the 400 lb mark 4 times and 550 maxed out the scale so can’t give accurate weight and that was once in dang near 20 yrs, I promise you if you ever reach down to try and leg a true 500+ pounder you’ll gain a new out look on what you deem big, easiest way to explain it is to go try and throw a baby hippo or rhino, just the shear strength alone is enough to make you turn your hat backwards, granted one of the 400+ was 1/4 tame blood and had been cut for 6 years living in beef and dairy cow country with an unlimited supply of feed every where they rambled, between feed wagons, silage pits, and grain fields they didn’t have to travel much at all, I’ve never caught an intact boar  that broke 4+, have come close to it at 385 on the scale but haven’t hit it yet, one of the 4+ team was a huge sow, there’s very few places left around here where a hog can be left alone long enough to grow and die of old age, there’s still a few slipping and lurking here by the house but they are SMART, barely travel roads, hardly eat at deer feeders, they get a whiff of human scent they will up and leave, get on on and they head straight to where a groups of sows and shoats are everytime, I feel accomplished in what I’ve been able to breed up and their abilities at making something’s look easy, but there’s still a few that make me wna pull my hair out... 

And this is one of those piney wood ghosts that can disappear in thin air and leave dang nice dogs look like they’re standing on their tails...
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