Dog weight gain

[cmcnutt22]

I recently purchased a dog that looks pretty rough. I’m not saying the guy starved the dog but the dog definitely needs some tlc. My question is besides good dog food what is something extra I can do to make him gain weight faster and clean him up? I’ve tried dyne but it didn’t seem to work on some of my other dogs before. I appreciate your time.

[Mike]

He probably needs a good worming. Hit him 3 days in a row with some panacur or Valbazen... then do it again two weeks later.


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[cmcnutt22]

Yeah I’ve wormed him twice since Thursday and I’ve got him on full feed. I use safe guard horse wormer on my dogs. I didn’t know if someone had any home remedies they use.

[t-dog]

The horse wormer can be hit and miss sometimes. I used it once upon a time. I stopped because I was still having dogs get wormy. The worm medicine is all there but the problem is that a horse will get it all because he will get the bulk of it all at once. Because a dog gets so much less, he may get one to several doses that are more filler than actual wormer because of the fact that it might not be mixed evenly throughout the tube. I would worm him, start him on probiotics everyday. TSC has a dial tube called jump start that is convenient and affordable. I bet money he will eat it before he eats his feed. I usually give a couple clicks a day. Also you can put some powdered goats milk on his feed to help put weight on and slick him up. Jack mackerel is also good for putting weight on one and slicking them up.

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[Austesus]

Like previously stated, a good working for 3 days in a row. I also give powder probiotics daily based on the recommendation from some guys on here about 2 months ago. I’ve always heard you can feed them a table spoon of fat with their food to help them put some weight on. Also you might want to look at the fat content if you’re feeding kibble, I would feed at least 20% fat.


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[WayOutWest]

They will gain weight faster feeding twice a day also.

[Reuben]

You can buy a 10 pound tube of 70/30 hamburger...70 percent meat and 30 percent fat...mix in 1/2 a pound a day with the dog food...

Some dogs just never gain weight...if nothing is working then it will be time to make a trip to the vet...

[Goose87]

F he has full feed in front of him and still not packing on weight, even on a quality kibble then I’d look for another root of the cause, I’m willing to bet it’s worms, you only mentioned using safe guard, it doesn’t get everything and if that’s all you’ve used chances are the parasites have built some resistance, go ahead and fork out the money if this goal is worth the investment and go to TSC and spend around 150$ or so and get a
Bottle of valbazen and cydectin pour on wormer for cattle, (purple stuff), give them one behind the other a day apart and again In 2 weeks and wouldn’t hurt again in another 2 weeks, keep an eye on his gums, if they’re not a good fleshy vibrant pink to red color and look dull colored to whiteish, then there’s usually an internal parasite problem, push against his gums and watch the area you touch when you lift your finger and monitor how fast the blood and color return to the site of pressure,  the faster and quicker color returns the better...

[Austesus]

While we are on the topic of worms I have a question for you guys...

My working routine is as follows ;

First every month I give a dose of strongid or safe guard (I alternate them every month) as well as a dose of ivermectin. Occasionally I’ll dose them 3 days in a row just to hit them hard. Sometimes I’ll miss a worming and then I’ll hit them 3 days in a row on the next cycle as well. All dogs look healthy and I never see worms in their poop. Their in kennels and I clean them out so I monitor it.

Well my male pup that got ran over a few weeks back has been in the house, going outside on a leash. He was consitpated for several days after the initial injury, I chalked it up to the pain meds. Then when he started pooping again he had a very very small amount of blood in it. No worries, figured it was just from being constipated. Well after a few days I watched him poop out a tape worm that had to be every bit of 2ft long and he had just a real nasty bloody poop. I hit him hard with some wormer and everything has looked fine since then. Are tape worms not covered under the wormers I’m using? Is there something I should change up? Like I said all dogs seem 100% healthy

Sorry if this is gross but here’s a picture of the worm, I’ve never seen a dog pass anything like this. Kinda creeped me out lol

 


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[Pwilson_10]

I have feed mine sour cream it will boost them a lot and soak there feed in warm water do it for a week like a big spoon full every feeding BUT urs being on self feeder it’s got to be worms WHAT dose his coat look like is he shinny
HOW ABOUT HIS WATER CLEAN WATER EVERY DAY WILL PACK THE WEIGHT ON THEM TO believe me or not he may have kidney problems there’s all kinda stuff to look at is there flys if there’s a bunch of flys then he is fighting flys all day witch is keeping him active witch is not letting him be lazy there’s all kinda crap to look at


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[jsh]

Prazanquitel kills tapes.

[Goose87]

Go to your local vets office a round brochures in the lobby for flea/tick and worm medicines, find the active ingredients and research where else it’s used besides in small animal practice and you’ll find that about 99% of them can be bought at local feed stores and TSC under different names and applications, there was a brand out that claimed to kill ALL worms and fleas, vets office was ridiculous on price, put forth a little effort to find out what the ingredients were and discovered it was moxidectin/and active ingredient in Bayer tree and shrub, I can buy a bottle big enough to last me almost a year for my yard ( avg 20 hd at all times between every breed and lifestage of dogs I own) for what one months of wormer would’ve cost through the clinic, moxidectin is th AI in cydectin pour on and drench for cattle and sheep/goats, Austeus there are different species of tape that are contracted through various forms of transmission and require different meds, you maybe killing one but just giving the other species more to go, SWAP your wormers up, and in mosquito season give the Ivetmectin directly in the hip/muscle, it’s absorbed directly into bloodstream instead of having to go through the stomach and be digested and processed and absorbed into the blood stream along with whatever else maybe in the gut, first time I used the cydectin I had what I thought were worm free and healthy looking dogs passing worms the next day and put on more mass within a month...

[Reuben]

Goose...excellent post... I too looked at the ingredients back in the 1980S before the internet...I bought a dog wormer for 8 bucks for treating 100 pounds of dog and look at the active ingredients then I would go to the feed store and buy the concentrated workers for goats, horses and cattle...usually for 1 tenth the price...

I have even cured dogs of heart worms for under ten bucks using a goat wormer...

For tape worms you can try quest plus Moxidectin/praziquantel but not sure if ingredients are enough for tapeworms...one tube treats 1250 pounds of horse...you can find at TSC...

For a sure thing you can google tape wormer for fish...I order Thomas labs fish wormer capsules...34 mg praziquantel capsules which treats an 85# dog...once you get rid of the fleas worm for tapes...

[Austesus]

Thanks for all the info guys!


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[Austesus]

Goose, what’s the dosage for that Cydectin? I’m going to try and pick up a bottle today


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[make-em-squeel]

other than worming properly I like cheap olive oil on their food. its allot healthier than the vegetable oil as well

[Austesus]

Just picked up a bottle of Cydectin pour on for beef and dairy cattle at Tractor Supply for $86. Are the dosages for cattle the same as yall give dogs? Also are y’all just giving it once a month, or several days in a row? Since I had that one work incident I’m going to hit all the dogs with a good worming to make sure they’re all clean


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[Goose87]

Just picked up a bottle of Cydectin pour on for beef and dairy cattle at Tractor Supply for $86. Are the dosages for cattle the same as yall give dogs? Also are y’all just giving it once a month, or several days in a row? Since I had that one work incident I’m going to hit all the dogs with a good worming to make sure they’re all clean


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1cc per 10 lbs of body weight, wouldn’t hurt to give 2 days in a row on your first worming and again 2 weeks later after that swap it up with a different  type of wormer each month, I also rub on ears and helps a lot with buying flies...

[Austesus]

Do you have any remedies for flies around the kennel? I’ve started feeding raw more frequently and I think the juice coming off of the food is what’s attracting the flies. They’re not too bad but I think they may get worse as we get in to summer


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[ESTEBAN_B]

is the cydectin oral or poured on? thanks in advance!