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« on: April 11, 2021, 09:18:11 am » |
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Had an 8 week old pup come up missing yesterday, so looked in the road to see if it had gotten ran over, looked in the pasture around the barn to see if maybe a horse or mule had pawed it and killed it and could not find hide nor hair of the puppy. This made me suspect a Coyote, a couple of years ago we lost 3 pups that were 14-16 weeks old to Coyotes, those pups would go to them in a defensive fashion when they howled at night and it was a fatal mistake for them. I declared war on the yotes with an electronic caller and killed 3 yotes and a bobcat, hadn't had any trouble ever before or since until yesterday. Well today just after breakfast heard the dogs barking at something and looking into the pasture, I was trying to keep the old barn between me and whatever they were looking at, sure enough it was a Coyote "he was closer to where the dogs were tied than I had suspected" but he saw me just as I saw him and ran in the brush, I just stood there real quiet and still and in about 5 minutes a rabbit flushed out of the brush, I thought yep he'll be coming out in a minute, in another 5 minutes he stepped out of the brush and met a .243 bullet. He was hunting another puppy, but he won't eat anymore of them. Now I'll have to watch for his mate unless he didn't have one.  |
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2021, 02:30:14 pm » |
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Glad you got him and I hope you get more of them.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2021, 04:09:03 pm » |
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I have never lived where they could get a pup but where I used to live my 5 acres was surrounded by woods. They plum wore me out on chickens. I kept a loaded gun on every door. I shot my share but they sure got a lot of my chickens.
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Mike
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2021, 08:07:13 pm » |
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Glad you got him Clue. Knock on wood, I’ve never had the yotes come in to my dogs... and there’s a bunch of them in these woods.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2021, 08:17:09 pm » |
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Dang hate to hear that glad you got him
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The Old Man
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2021, 09:42:28 pm » |
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Thanks Guys, it has been rough for the Plotts here lately, that puppy's grandma died a couple weeks ago with identical symptoms of Hambone, after being involved in a boar hog catchin that whacked some more dogs up, even though she did not have a hair out of place on the outside, then yesterday Ol'Gantte, "who was her son and the puppy's daddy" died in the woods, I tracked to him off a split race where he was running alone and had been out of communication with him several times, one of the hits I got on him he showed treed about 250 yds under a mountain road that is almost impassable so I got on the mule and rode to the top and he was a couple more miles west from there when I got to the top with another question mark, so I came out and by the time I drove way around to the other side intending to get closer to and ahead of him, he showed treed but wasn't showing to be barking and I hoped he was just stopped in there but that would have been uncharacteristic and when I rode in to him he was dead and stiff, the only injury showing was an old knot on his ribs from a December injury was torn open but was not fatal in itself. But hey if you can't stand to lose them you just better not have them, because it is inevitable on ocassion.
Here's the kicker, it was discussed on here awhile back about me collecting him, I planned to do it in the next two weeks, would have done it the past week but I had that knot opened up 2 weeks ago and more or less inspected, it was just scar tissue from the rib damage and of course they put him on antibiotics and I wanted the antibiotics to be cleared out of his system, didn't know if it could affect his sperm motility or not.
I have a pair of pups out of him and a good producing female and am keeping one of the two little pups the coyote didn't get, I will also have access to the second one if needed, and have another litter born yesterday that I will get a pair of if she raises them, they are bred nearly identical to Gantte and his babies that will come from Tennessee when weaned so I didn't lose completely out.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2021, 09:52:18 pm » |
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Dangit thats a rough week for ya sorry to hear it.Was Gantte the solid black male you posted awhile back?
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The Old Man
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2021, 06:42:46 am » |
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Yes sir that was him, he actually had a little brindle on him but it didn
t show in the pics.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2021, 06:58:34 am » |
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Clue, about 10 or 12 years ago I had 3 pups come up missing. I really thought people were scooping them up. I was out feeding the horses and had a couple of 4 month old pups nosing around the treeline and hears one of them start screaming. I took off running towards them and the noise was going deeper in the woods. Anyway I got close enough where whatever turned it loose and I saw it hi tailing towards the house. That was Kemmesabbe as a pup and he was bleeding from the neck and shoulder. I told my neighbor about it and she told me her husband had been baiting them in getting ready to trap them. I told her to tell Barney he better get his traps out or I was going to put poison out. He put his traps out and caught 5 in a week and never had a problem since altho I did shoot another one drinking out of my pond.
I sure hated that you lost them. Sometimes dogs have complications from injuries that they received in the past as in the case of Hillbilly. Still dosent make it easier and it seems like it will always be a good one. Hope those pups fill their shoes.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2021, 09:06:50 am » |
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This is the time of year I always seem to have lots of interactions between my dogs and coyotes. The females are finally coming off dens a little to start hunting again but stayin close to the pups and very territorial. We catch a few every year with the dogs around this time. Dogs will be hunting and come across a den, them leopard dogs I raise hate coyotes, and if they see one, it is game on.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2021, 01:31:41 pm » |
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killing yotes is good for the environment imo. Nice job. Sorry bout your rough luck with the plotts of late!
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2021, 02:38:50 pm » |
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Yotes are trying constantly to pull my yard dogs in the orchards. My dogs have got smart and bait em in and i smoke em.
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The Old Man
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2021, 08:32:31 pm » |
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There is an old joke about the neurtering of coyotes. The farmer had sheep being killed by coyotes and they were at a meeting discussing the problem, and a tree hugger happened to be there and suggested catching and neutering the coyotes, the farmer replied lady the coyotes aren't screwing my sheep to death they are just killing and eating them.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2021, 10:39:05 am » |
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There is an old joke about the neurtering of coyotes. The farmer had sheep being killed by coyotes and they were at a meeting discussing the problem, and a tree hugger happened to be there and suggested catching and neutering the coyotes, the farmer replied lady the coyotes aren't screwing my sheep to death they are just killing and eating them.
ha...I think I had one, or possibly a mountain lion kill a big 90 lb athletic boerboel mastiff of mine. He was defending the chicken coop and was gutted from sternum to private with a precession cut like a surgeon did it, guts spilled out a little bit and no other defense wounds. He was a stud and killed many of varmints for me, caught a few pigs in a trap and wouldnt let anyone in the yard. I never have known what got him for sure but I quit letting my kids go down there un attended after that, still makes me wonder. My neighbor had goats and when the yotes got one they would eat the guts out and leave the carcass so it made me think yote but idk... |
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The Old Man
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2021, 01:35:33 pm » |
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I can't see a yote killing a 90 lb dog, especially one that would sure enough get hold of one, sometimes in the spring a pair defending a den will harass and try to chase off dogs that come near, but coyotes do vary a little in their behavior in different parts of the country.
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« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2021, 03:15:34 pm » |
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There is an old joke about the neurtering of coyotes. The farmer had sheep being killed by coyotes and they were at a meeting discussing the problem, and a tree hugger happened to be there and suggested catching and neutering the coyotes, the farmer replied lady the coyotes aren't screwing my sheep to death they are just killing and eating them.
ha...I think I had one, or possibly a mountain lion kill a big 90 lb athletic boerboel mastiff of mine. He was defending the chicken coop and was gutted from sternum to private with a precession cut like a surgeon did it, guts spilled out a little bit and no other defense wounds. He was a stud and killed many of varmints for me, caught a few pigs in a trap and wouldnt let anyone in the yard. I never have known what got him for sure but I quit letting my kids go down there un attended after that, still makes me wonder. My neighbor had goats and when the yotes got one they would eat the guts out and leave the carcass so it made me think yote but idk... In defense mode a cat will grab onto the face of whatever is biting it and then put its rear claws in low gear and go for the guts, whether it’s a feral or a leopard. I would bet that’s what happened there. Which is why I chuckle at the internet Dogo crowd and the Morocho stories. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2021, 04:51:07 pm » |
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Mountain lion does make more sense. Especially bc my mom just saw one about 15 miles from there on her morning walk. Still one of the oddest situations Ive encountered personally. Id of thought some other sign of a fight would have been seen other than what looked like a surgeon with a scalpel gutting him, not jagged or anything. Other dog that was with him had a gash in her shoulder similar to a common hog wound.
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