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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2021, 09:20:28 am » |
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The thing about it is most every cur line has some bull dog in them at some point as do many other breeds. I would say bulldogs as a whole are the most capable breed there is. And that came from hundreds of yrs of battle. Everyone has the right in America to have there own thoughts. But a narrow mind brings narrow opinions
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Big difference between "Pit" Bulldogs and Bulldogs where I come from. One was bred to fight and the other was bred to work, period.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2021, 09:32:38 am » |
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Let me broaden my brush. Dog fighting is not only for white trash and n#ggers, but also every other race's "trash". Again, this is only my opinion and also the opinion of those "Crackers" I was raised around I have no problem offending those who need offending
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2021, 09:34:28 am » |
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Let me broaden my brush. Dog fighting is not only for white trash and n#ggers, but also every other race's "trash". Again, this is only my opinion and also the opinion of those "Crackers" I was raised around I have no problem offending those who need offending SHOOOO fly......
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2021, 12:18:20 pm » |
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Let me broaden my brush. Dog fighting is not only for white trash and n#ggers, but also every other race's "trash". Again, this is only my opinion and also the opinion of those "Crackers" I was raised around I have no problem offending those who need offending No one here needs offending, you just need to learn when your opinion is out of line with what is being discussed. You haven’t seen a single reply saying anyone wanted to legalize dog fighting. There are quite a few people across the world using BullTerriers to catch hogs, while that may not be something you approve of either they are doing it and a look at that breed’s history was all I was trying to start a discussion about. But here you are coming back trying to stir the pot with your “broad brush” looking for a fight with people you probably have more in common with than opposed? If you can’t see where you are wrong and then man up and apologize, you should seek entertainment elsewhere. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2021, 01:26:28 pm » |
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Same dogs used for different things make no mistake about it if the Irish guy 300 yrs ago hadn’t been using those dogs in a game manner you would even be talking bout a bulldog period end of story. And cuts along with many other breeds would be lackluster
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2021, 01:52:59 pm » |
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Same dogs used for different things make no mistake about it if the Irish guy 300 yrs ago hadn’t been using those dogs in a game manner you would even be talking bout a bulldog period end of story. And cuts along with many other breeds would be lackluster
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Very good point Judge IMHO any Bulldogs used by Florida Crackers that didn’t have “half and half” blood would have been descended from bullbaiting dogs in the olde world, they didn’t just spring up out of the ground. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2021, 08:41:16 pm » |
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Judge ...theres a guy on FB that uses 5 pits on cattle just like a cowdog. Lol yeah a good bulldog is well worth its weight. And like you said thanks to the Irish lad that started because you are exactly right. From what ive read and heard there is quite afew breeds that have bulldog in em. APBT.
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2021, 09:16:21 pm » |
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My buddy use them on cows 30 yrs ago. I never seen it but he said they was dam good. I did see a bulldog win a bay competition one time
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Reuben
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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2021, 09:50:56 pm » |
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You can call them Pitbull or bulldogs…it is a figure of speech…pit dog fighting is against the law…even the illegal has slowed down by the looks of it…
I will say that 40 years ago you could pick up any Pitbull dog from the pound and it made a pretty good catch dog…why would that be? It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out these dogs weren’t very far removed from the pit…
You go to the pound today and pick one up and it might make a catch dog and then maybe not…
The good ones…Pound for pound I don’t think they can be beat…we have to rely on the serious catch dog breeders that select for the high drive fearless bulldog…
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2021, 09:58:44 pm » |
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Ya that’s true on the pound thing. I never really heard the pit bull term unless I was talking to a non bulldog person
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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2021, 12:57:03 pm » |
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Delehant and Feely dogs had a big influence on our more modern bulldogs, especially Feely. The most prepotent bulldog of alltime had a lot of Con Feely's blood in him.
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« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2021, 09:20:44 pm » |
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Semmens you know I am 100% on the right but things that the left believe don’t up set me although I would strongly banter on some subjects some have no bearing on my life so they don’t bother me. There are many different ways to live your life in this country and that’s why I am proud to have served my country for 8 yrs. a fella told me one time when I was young if you believe one way and don’t vote no matter the out come your not helping your hurting. Back to the bulldog stuff you sure know your dogs and where they come from I just never been a name jerker or super technically worded. More of a break glass when needed type. I tryed bout 15 yrs ago to get a American Bulldog for catch dog went thru a few never did work out for me but I am thinking bout getting one later on you know of any good breeders that have good ones
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2021, 07:02:17 pm » |
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Judge
Man I couldn’t tell ya what is going on with the AB nowadays nor in the last ten years. I quit keeping track...
The community used to have a message board just like this one. It was called true grit. Mike was a member. We all used to talk dogs and lines and the old school folks were on there. It was a wealth of history. I spent many years following shows and working dogs in different venues. Met most of the originators of the breed. Went thru a lot of dogs myself.
While I can look at a pedigree and tell you what my opinion is...sometimes I can see a dog and just puck out how it’s bred. It’s been ten years since I kept up.
Everyone went to Facebook after truegrit shut down. I don’t do Facebook. I was kinda a pariah anyway because I went against the grain of a lot of the origin sales pitch thing. Just my humble beliefs.
Never sold an ab myself. But like you most I bought didn’t work out. Love the good ones and hate the bad ones, but most fall somewhere in between like most breeds. Especially a composite breed like the ab.
I will tell ya that the best ones I had were given to me for free or I paid very little comparatively to the market price....
There is a reason I breed my bull mutts now. Which are definitely not refined, especially at the snails pace I have breed them. But in defense, the American Bulldog had yet to be refined even after 60 years of line breeding mutts... Jmo
I’m kinda a Bulldog history buff after all these years. And I find the apbt history much more interesting. A lot of those dogs in history, probably bull mutts themselves, didn’t rely on a lot of hype or history or family province. They just let true performance sort it out. Then bred on them and the performance of the offspring gave merit to the proceeding dog and do on until it gave merit to a line. Kinda how it should be done I suppose...
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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2021, 07:07:59 pm » |
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Btw... I used to love to see the pics and the stories of that old buckskin male you had... forgot his name.
...he sure was a good un
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2021, 07:41:41 pm » |
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I still got him he old and slow now days but he will still get it done when I take him
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