stoked
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« on: August 14, 2009, 02:52:11 am » |
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excluding a blood hound. i've read a lot and im really interested in what you guys think! would love to hear some different opinions!!
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2009, 03:07:05 am » |
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I would say a Basset hound as far as "Best" nose besides a bloodhound but as far as hunting hogs I would have to go with ridgeback, Foxhound or of course a Plott will take care of the job. Just my .02
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2009, 05:20:17 am » |
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micheal spiehler told me that he (and this was just his opinion) that he thinks a plott hound doesn't have as much hound vs like a bluetick, walker, etc.. he said that is probably why a plott tends to be more closed mouth than other hounds.. again...this is just his opinion and what he personally thinks....just want to clear that up. i don't want any rumors getting started. we were talking about my buddies plotts, and that all his plotts are completely silent. I've personally never seen some plotts that quiet. He's got some good blood in his pack. my bluetick has got the biggest mouth ever... she was completely wide open when i got her. as soon as she hit the ground, she would start bawlin' then she would bump here and there sometimes worse than others. she gets super excited when she has been on the chain for a while. after she hunts for a bit, she settles down (closed mouth) a good bit while she hunts. she does real well with my closed mouth dogs. at first it seemed to be messing up my other dogs hunting. a lot of false alarms you might say. after a couple of hunts we all (me and the dogs) learned to distingush between her real strikes and (im happy to be hunting bawls.) recently, she has been keeping her mouth shut pretty good. however, she is still wide open on track. as soon as she strikes, believe me when i tell you, your definetly gonna know it. I can't complain though, her voice is the reason why i bought her. Besides, she has a perfect record. we haven't lost a pig since we got her. might take her a while to work it out, but in the end, she finds the pig. this makes me wonder....just how good is her nose compared to other hounds. ive read a lot, but would like to her your opinions as well.
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« Last Edit: August 14, 2009, 05:27:35 am by stoked »
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2009, 07:20:41 am » |
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In all hound breeds, there are individuals that excell in tracking. From there, it would be a struggle.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2009, 07:34:59 am » |
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Hello stoked, I been hunting hounds for about 28 yrs and I can tell you as for nose on a hound I have hunted with every flavor of hound and they very in every breed, you may hunt with a walker that has a better nose than your buddy's bluetick, then the next night you may hunt with a redbone that has a better nose than them both, I mostly hunted walkers and some had a very good nose and some didn't it vary's from dog to dog and breeding, one breed doesn't have a better nose than the other it just depends on the dog and alot of times the dog just need's to learn to use what he has. I have hunted with a dog one time and dogs out strike him and then the next few times he'll do the strikeing, cold trailing and do more nose work than the others just my opinion but I beleave it all depends on the dog, not the breed.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2009, 07:56:34 am » |
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Hog Stalker your 110% correct, all dogs can smell and use nose but it to what level that they have been taught or have developed on their own on how to use it.
Most all will be different to a level.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2009, 07:59:36 am » |
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Food for thought (I am no expert by the way)....maybe it isn't about the nose, but about the desire to run older tracks... Perhaps it is something in the brain that triggers a certain response...
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 08:37:32 am » |
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Do you feel that all dogs with full length tails hunt harder than bob-tailed dogs?
This is the same style question. Of 25 people polled, you'll hear 25 different "expert" opinions. It is all subject to interpretation.
As far as noses on hounds, I raise big game blueticks. I do so because I feel they give me an edge. That being said, I've hunted around plenty of dogs of all breeds that made their owners want to feed them the next morning. Different strokes for different folks.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 09:04:14 am » |
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I agree that it depends more on the dog than the breed. Shoot, the coldest nose on my place belongs to a dog I'm pretty sure is a border collie or border collie crossed with something.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 03:36:25 pm » |
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I think all dogs can smell about the same just some have cold trailing instincts and some don't. You put a two dogs down on a cold track and one is a cold trailing hound the other is a Cur that does not cold trail. Both dogs can smell the track but only one (the hound) has the instinct to take the cold trail. Just my opinion. We think because they don't work the scent that they cannot smell it but thats not necessarily true.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2009, 10:12:39 pm » |
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Hello stoked, I been hunting hounds for about 28 yrs and I can tell you as for nose on a hound I have hunted with every flavor of hound and they very in every breed, you may hunt with a walker that has a better nose than your buddy's bluetick, then the next night you may hunt with a redbone that has a better nose than them both, I mostly hunted walkers and some had a very good nose and some didn't it vary's from dog to dog and breeding, one breed doesn't have a better nose than the other it just depends on the dog and alot of times the dog just need's to learn to use what he has. I have hunted with a dog one time and dogs out strike him and then the next few times he'll do the strikeing, cold trailing and do more nose work than the others just my opinion but I beleave it all depends on the dog, not the breed.
Like you I have been hunting hounds for 30 years, and agree with most of what you say. I believe the Bluetick and the Black and Tans as a norm have a much better nose than the others.
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stoked
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 07:20:27 pm » |
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well guys, i sure thank you for your info, it really helps to get opinions from people who have been dealing with certain breeds for a long period of time.
very interesting information!
again, thanks...
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 08:54:19 pm » |
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The with the best nose, the one that stops the runners all the time or the bulldog that never misses "is always the one back at the house." I knew I should have brought old " insert name here". We would have had that hog caught in a second if old "insert name here" was here.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 09:35:51 pm » |
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Dachshunds............AKA wiener dogs!!!
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2009, 10:33:40 pm » |
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Plotts did indeed originate from different stock than the other American hounds. In theory, they don't have any English Foxhound in them, they trace straight back to German hunting hounds. That probably isn't true anymore, I'm sure people mixed in plenty of other hounds before the registries came along, but that is supposedly why they are a different sort of hound than Blueticks, Black and Tans, etc.
But I don't think an open mouthed dog has any better nose than a closed mouth dog. They just have an open mouth. It's a behavior, not a symptom.
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2009, 10:39:36 pm » |
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Is it really a better nose, or a stronger hunting drive and the smarts to figure it all out?
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 12:11:13 am » |
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Plotts originated from brindle cur dogs out of Arkansas bred to Irish fox hounds like the July and Sugarloaf. Or, at least according to the Plott family they did.
Generally speaking, all dogs have about the same capacity for smelling. It all comes down to the hard wiring that determines what they do with it.
The percentage of folks who misinterpret what their dog is doing is so close to 100% . . I wouldn't bother calling it 99.9%. Forget the myths and legends. Pay attention and you'll see something new everytime out.
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